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Canada / Sweden 2010 Marine Life Booklet Varieties

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Posted 10/22/2010   11:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well in theory the 1's and 2's should be the same, but according to my math, books with the serial number AND "1" are a ratio of approximately 1 to 8, while those with "2" are 1 to 3.

I don't know why 1's are rarer than 2's yet...
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Posted 10/23/2010   12:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Minesweeper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think I agree with Bee See...the 1 with serial number seem to be much harder to find than the 2's. Don't know if it apply's to booklets with marks.
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Posted 10/23/2010   12:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bee See, wasn't your math concerned with whether the 1's and 2's occurred on serial numbered booklets only? I think you were going by just the booklets in the serial # list. (?)

Originally, early on in the thread, counting blank booklets and all, we had determined the 10% odds ourselves I believe. edit: not quite

And, we have not had a very full , across-Canada sampling really. There are many gaps. We don;t really know the beginning and end of where the 1's and 2's appear only on the serial numbered booklets even.

Lots of fun yet to be had.
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Edited by Puzzler - 10/26/2010 05:17 am
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Posted 10/23/2010   12:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
...the 1 with serial number seem to be much harder to find than the 2's


But, couldn't this be because we have not seen all the booklets available? Maybe they sent tons to Northern climes and we won't see them till the Spring thaw next year now.

Or they are gone far afield into foreign dealer's inventories.

I do wish I had some numbers to add to the list from all Provinces and from the Philatelic Centre also. I have mumbled on about this before I think. That would help with the where and why-fores.

Or, if an earlier post was correct in general, that the stamps were slow to sell and generally used on parcels and such, where is all the kiloware now?

Anyone seen any full booklet panes on cover as of yet? That would be a site. Oh, may be I should create one! what costs $4.56 to mail?
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Posted 10/23/2010   12:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No, I think 1's are definitely rarer than 2's. Perhaps there was a problem with the cylinder and it was dropped.

Remember there were 275,000 booklets, and 1 out of 10 had serial numbers. That makes serial numbers from 1 to 27,500. But they go up to 99,000. I think some of the huge gaps will remain as such, as per my list, and 1's would have been in the gaps. My thought anyway.
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Posted 10/23/2010   12:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Indeed, thank you for reminding me of the quantities. I had lost track of that.

That total is confusing unless there are gaps in the list of serial numbers.
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Posted 10/23/2010   12:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
But you are right my friend, it has been a FUN Filatelic quest!
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Edited by BeeSee - 10/23/2010 12:56 am
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Posted 10/23/2010   12:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They say that these were printed with (or on) a continuous web print. What exactly does that mean? It sounds to me like there would be no used up plates if, as I perhaps mistakenly understand it, the stamps were all in a computer and then printed out bit by bit or row by row or however?

Enlightenment is welcome.
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Posted 10/23/2010   01:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From Wiki Answers at http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_c...ous_printing

Printing on a continuous "web" of paper from large uncut reels. Because there is no need to feed sheets of paper the press can run much faster and paper can be bought wholesale direct from the mill. Thus the high outlay costs of the machinery can be offset against efficiency and bulk-buying savings. There are a number of types:

* Gravure: A lithographic process using ink transferred to the paper via an engraved cylinder, typically used for very long runs such as TV listing magazines.
* Web Offset: Also a lithographic process, using metal plates instead of a cylinder. Suitable for slightly shorter runs - Avon catalogues are printed this way (including scratch'n'sniff panels). Newspaper printing is a highly specialised form of Web Offset print.
* Digital Web: Used for printing transactional mail (like bank statements or mobile phone statements), direct ("junk") mail, or short runs of books or newspapers. The US company Lightning Source Inc prints books to order this way, often as few as one or two at a time.

These stamps are Lithography and Intaglio. To me, it looks like the first process on the list.(?) I am not too sure of what is meant by each. More reading . . .
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Posted 10/23/2010   01:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well I guess "continuous" does not take into the account of power failures, machine break down, or invasions from aliens.
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Posted 10/23/2010   02:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe the Vulcan's are doing experiments on all the missing booklets.

I just noticed on another board that someone drew attention to the fact that on the booklet inside cover Canada Post calls the process intaglio but in French it calls it gravure sur acier which in Google translates as steel engraving.
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maligning ym name behind my back?

after 20 pages I still dont know what the thread is about why would I be doing experiments?
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maligning ym name behind my back?

after 20 pages I still dont know what the thread is about why would I be doing experiments?
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Oh spock; did you replicate yourself again


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Posted 10/23/2010   09:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
after 20 pages I still dont know what the thread is about why would I be doing experiments?


Spock you crack me out of my shell.

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