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Canada / Sweden 2010 Marine Life Booklet Varieties

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Posted 06/04/2010   5:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Moonbird, thank you for the contribution. I will add them in, been a bit slow lately.

Are those acquired in Ottawa, Ontario?
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Posted 06/04/2010   5:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moonbird to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Puzzler - you say "variety" - but I would say "variation." So far we are not seeing errors (which is what "variety means to me")......unless the near unseeable gray counting mark is a variety.
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Posted 06/04/2010   5:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moonbird to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Puzzler - yes acquired in Ottawa from three post offices and maybe from a total of 150 booklets.
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Posted 06/04/2010   6:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I do actually agree with you as to the words variation or variety.

I used 'variety' to start as Robin Harris, editor of the Unitrade catalog was using it on his web site Adminware to describe these.

In the front preface to the 2005 catalogue I own it also says that Scott uses a,b,c,d,e etc for obvious variety numbering and Unitrade uses the i,ii,iii,iv,v etc lower case Roman numerals after those for 'varieties' not recognized by Scott, as Unitrade uses the Scott numbering system under license I believe.

They are but variations on a theme, so to speak, but I merely followed the catalogue and web site's convention.
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Posted 06/05/2010   07:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moonbird to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the launch cover. Remarks by Canada Post rep at RPSC Windsor convention included the comment: "These stamps also record a few 'firsts.' We've introduced elliptical perforations for this issue - a first in Canada - and Swedish Post has recreated the maple leaf perforation on the souvenir sheet using new techniques rather than a perforating machine. This is also the first gummee booklet we've produced since 2004."

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Posted 06/05/2010   07:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Always nice to know the official word. Thank you Moonbird.

Thought I would add this in right after yours to keep them together.
(Scan courtesy ebay seller guardian20235.)
Joint FDC Canada and Sweden stamps and cancels:



edit:
Sweden FDC scan courtesy Delcampe Smalik in Pakistan of all places.

Very nice drawing of the sea otter.
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Edited by Puzzler - 10/22/2010 9:34 pm
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Posted 06/05/2010   09:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Puzzler, to update your list, NONE of my Control Number (KN) books have serial numbers, counting tabs, where you have question marks, and all are LO.

Edited: OOps
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Edited by BeeSee - 06/05/2010 09:58 am
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Posted 06/05/2010   09:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Now I am bit confused. What we were calling control numbers (6-digit numbers) the Swedes call KN or serial or counting numbers. Same thing.

Do you mean that none of your booklets have the little black marks on the covers? (which Robin was calling counting tabs.) That is where I have the ? marks. Oh, and also in the Lower or upper fields as I don't know if yours are all on the lower selvedge for sure or not.

Thanks.

edit: thanks Bee See for the correction above. I have re-updated the Page 5 Page 1 list as per your new info.
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Edited by Puzzler - 09/07/2010 10:31 pm
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Posted 06/05/2010   10:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I was at the official "unveiling" of the issue at Royal*Royal 2010 in Windsor.


Is it not odd that the official unveiling was in Windsor, but the First Day of Issue was in Victoria, BC? I just noticed the cancel when I looked at my FDC.
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Posted 06/05/2010   10:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moonbird to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Canada now has what is decidedly weird practice regarding launches. The official "launch" is the day of issue. But new issues can be "unveiled" post launch at special events such as the RPSC convention. They are not cancelled at such events. And you should not think of that event as the "official unveiling."
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Posted 06/05/2010   10:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Moonbird - it goes to show us (which we already new) the FDC's are cancelled well in advance of the day of issue.
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Posted 06/05/2010   10:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Regarding FDCs, you can make your own cover, send it to the Canada Post Philatelic Centre in Antigonish, NS and they will cancel it with the First Day official cancel (I think) up to 3 weeks (again I think, haven't done this myself yet) after the issue date.

Worth a call on their toll free number to find out for sure I suppose.

I always wondered if they would cancel an issued stamp along with a Picture Postage stamp of the same subject matter all on the same cover. That would be cool.
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Posted 06/05/2010   5:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moonbird to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BeeSee - you cannot intrepret that from my post. Though you are probably right.
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Posted 06/05/2010   5:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You are right Moonbird - I was wrong, I thought the show opened the same day as the release of the stamps, while the show actually started May 28, and the stamps were released May 15
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Posted 06/05/2010   7:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From a different source ( ebay seller suarkj) than Bee See in Langley, BC also I have this data just in today:

These included one with the mark on the cover, seven with the bold
one, six with the bold two, and six with a serial number on the lower
selvage: 025890, 025891, 025892, 026404, 026564, 026565

Out of approximately 50 booklets:
Blue 1 = 7
Blue 2 = 6
6-Digit = 6
Mark on Cover = 1
Combos = 0
So 7 + 6 + 6 = 19, slightly more than mine and Bee See's 50 count, which raises the odds for finding one of these cylinder numbers or counting numbers (6-digit).

Previous total (Puzzler and Bee See):
Blue 1 = 8
Blue 2 = 8
6-Digit = 12

adding new data in for totals out of 145 booklets approximately:
Blue 1 = 15 = 9.6%
Blue 2 = 14 = 10.3%
6-Digit = 18 = 8.0% chance of finding one.

Average of 9.3 %. Rough idea only. Not a large enough sample to be statistically significant I wouldn't think.

List of serial numbers updated on Page 5 Page 1 of topic.

Note I have noticed that sometimes these links to page 5 do not work as intended so please just go to page 5 if that happens, thank you for you patience.
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Edited by Puzzler - 09/07/2010 10:46 pm
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