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Posted 10/27/2022   07:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rod222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Tried to post previous thread but locked.
https://goscf.com/t/15156 br /

Lots of gaps, collection formed exclusively from Swaps.

Sc#48> 1881

Sc##58> 1888
The 2pf seems a little odd, with a machine cancel at this date


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Posted 10/27/2022   08:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nicely done. You have me beaten in number of stamps for both sets.

What looks like a machine cancel might just be a roller cancel. Then again if the US had machine cancels from the 1860s, Germany likely did, too. What say you, Bavaria collectors?


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Had not even considered a roller cancel, I think you're right.


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At that time, there were several POs in München (Munich) and Nürnberg (Nuremberg) that used the wavy machine cancel. There may have been others, that just what I found with a quick search.
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Nice catch, Postmaster.
You are a legend.
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Sc#271> 1920
A very conscientious postal clerk, with the cancelling hammer.

Sc#O1> 1908

Sc#O20>1918
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Sc# J13 Postage Due. (1903)
Opt : Vom Empfanger zahlbar = Paid by Recipient
Wmk 95h
CV : 50c
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Bavaria Telephone Billet. (Not mine)

What do you mean by billet?
1 archaic : a brief letter : note. 2a : an official order directing that a member of a military force be provided with board and lodging (as in a private home) b : quarters assigned by or as if by a billet. 3 : position, job a lucrative billet.


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Rod,

If you want the catalog entries for those perfins, just let me know. I might need to see the fronts as well, though.
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Mutilated Stationery Fragments. (circa 1898)
No country name, but identified by the Harlequin patterned lozenges
of the Inescutcheon of the Bavarian Coat of Arms


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Quote:
If you want the catalog entries for those perfins


Thank you Postmaster, I searched high and low online
perhaps they meld with Germany.
I could only find "A" perfins at Zelnius.

Also, curious about font used in Overprints
"Bayern" v what looks like "Banern"



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curious about font used in Overprints

That's fraktur and there's no "hard" standard form just as stuff written or printed in English can be done in different styles or fonts. See the Germanias overprinted "Gen.-Gouv. Warschau" and the Hindenbergs overprinted "Elsace" for other ones that aren't immediately clear in English.

Chinese hanzi fonts might be worse for recognition by non-natives but often a snap for those who see signs and packaging in different styles/fonts every day. So if you know fraktur (not at all in common usage nowadays), it's probably the same. You got the "f" for "s" character, after all, probably from the same root as the "f" in old English.
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Thank you HB.

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Rod,

Here are those perfins, minus the partial which I haven't IDed yet.



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You bring a smile to a collector, Postmaster.
"A job well done"

Thank you so much.
May you explain the text "Gerat" and "Beleg" please?
Google translation failed.
POKO did not seem to match "equipment"

As a tangent, I have assumed these base German cancelling hammers
were poured from a mold / mould.
The impression on the "RO" perfin, suggests they were engraved
the "Star:" fleuron is amazingly fine, if that be so.
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Rod,

Gerät = the type of perforation machine used.

Found this on the Internet for POKO: "A term used to describe a class of perfins on coil stamps that were fed through machines that automatically affixed them to letters. POKO perfins are found on the stamps of several European countries."

Not sure which machines the Est and St abbreviations are for.

Beleg = not sure of the English translation. Think it's just a box to check if you have one.
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