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Is There Renewed Interest In Revenue Stamps?

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Posted 12/10/2022   5:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add YbT to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hmmmmm google Smithsonian Stamp from the Stamp Act of 1765
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Posted 12/10/2022   5:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
December 16, 1773 was the date of The Boston Tea Party.

Here are two stamps from the Smithsonian:






As to the Documents I saw, they were part of an exhibit, non-competitive or court of honor I believe and were shown as the tax stamps which lead to the creation of the USA. I don't own them not do I think they are in private hands. But WOW, to just see them.

I suggest you research the programs for the past US held internationals prior to 2006 and if not there, check the APS Summer Stamps Shows prior to 2011.

Edit for link: https://www.history.com/topics/amer...on-tea-party (must run to post office)--Am back.

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...Why Did the Boston Tea Party Happen?

In the 1760s, Britain was deep in debt, so British Parliament imposed a series of taxes on American colonists to help pay those debts.

The Stamp Act of 1765 taxed colonists on virtually every piece of printed paper they used, from playing cards and business licenses to newspapers and legal documents. The Townshend Acts of 1767 went a step further, taxing essentials such as paint, paper, glass, lead and tea.

The British government felt the taxes were fair since much of its debt was earned fighting wars on the colonists' behalf. The colonists, however, disagreed. They were furious at being taxed without having any representation in Parliament, and felt it was wrong for Britain to impose taxes on them to gain revenue.

On March 5, 1770, a street brawl happened in Boston between American colonists and British soldiers.

Later known as the Boston Massacre, the fight began after an unruly group of colonists—frustrated with the presence of British soldiers in their streets—flung snowballs, ice and oyster shells at a British sentinel guarding the Boston Customs House.

Reinforcements arrived and opened fire on the mob, killing five colonists and wounding six. The Boston Massacre and its fallout further incited the colonists' rage towards Britain.

Tea Act Imposed

Britain eventually repealed the taxes it had imposed on the colonists except the tea tax. It wasn't about to give up tax revenue on the nearly 1.2 million pounds of tea the colonists drank each year.

In protest, the colonists boycotted tea sold by British East India Company and smuggled in Dutch tea, leaving British East India Company with millions of pounds of surplus tea and facing bankruptcy.

In May 1773, British Parliament passed the Tea Act which allowed British East India Company to sell tea to the colonies duty-free and much cheaper than other tea companies—but still tax the tea when it reached colonial ports.

Tea smuggling in the colonies increased, although the cost of the smuggled tea soon surpassed that of tea from British East India Company with the added tea tax.

Still, with the help of prominent tea smugglers such as John Hancock and Samuel Adams —who protested taxation without representation but also wanted to protect their tea smuggling operations—colonists continued to rail against the tea tax and Britain's control over their interests.

Sons of Liberty

The Sons of Liberty were a group of colonial merchants and tradesmen founded to protest the Stamp Act and other forms of taxation. The group of revolutionists included prominent patriots such as Benedict Arnold, Patrick Henry and Paul Revere, as well as Adams and Hancock.

Led by Adams, the Sons of Liberty held meetings rallying against British Parliament and protested the Griffin's Wharf arrival of Dartmouth, a British East India Company ship carrying tea. By December 16, 1773, Dartmouth had been joined by her sister ships, Beaver and Eleanor; all three ships loaded with tea from China.

That morning, as thousands of colonists convened at the wharf and its surrounding streets, a meeting was held at the Old South Meeting House where a large group of colonists voted to refuse to pay taxes on the tea or allow the tea to be unloaded, stored, sold or used. (Ironically, the ships were built in America and owned by Americans.)

Governor Thomas Hutchison refused to allow the ships to return to Britain and ordered the tea tariff be paid and the tea unloaded. The colonists refused, and Hutchison never offered a satisfactory compromise.

What Happened at the Boston Tea Party?

That night, a large group of men—many reportedly members of the Sons of Liberty— disguised themselves in Native American garb, boarded the docked ships and threw 342 chests of tea into the water....

In June of 1774, George Washington wrote: "the cause of Boston…ever will be considered as the cause of America...."

Benjamin Franklin insisted the British East India Company be reimbursed for the lost tea and even offered to pay for it himself.

No one was hurt, and aside from the destruction of the tea and a padlock, no property was damaged or looted during the Boston Tea Party. The participants reportedly swept the ships' decks clean before they left....

Thanks to their Native American costumes, only one of the tea party culprits, Francis Akeley, was arrested and imprisoned....

King George III and British Parliament...In retribution, they passed the Coercive Acts...

Britain hoped the Coercive Acts would squelch rebellion in New England and keep the remaining colonies from uniting, but the opposite happened: All the colonies viewed the punitive laws as further evidence of Britain's tyranny and rallied to Massachusetts' aid, sending supplies and plotting further resistance....

Second Boston Tea Party

A second Boston Tea Party took place in March 1774, when around 60 Bostonians boarded the ship Fortune and dumped nearly 30 chests of tea into the harbor.

The event didn't earn nearly as much notoriety as the first Boston Tea Party, but it did encourage other tea-dumping demonstrations in Maryland, New York and South Carolina....


And as is said, the rest is History.


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No one was hurt, and aside from the destruction of the tea and a padlock, no property was damaged or looted during the Boston Tea Party. The participants reportedly swept the ships' decks clean before they left....


Alas, when it comes to demonstrations, that was a great one; unlike what folks have devolved into in the past few years where property damage and looting are an integrated part of the activity.
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As to the Documents I saw, they were part of an exhibit, non-competitive or court of honor I believe and were shown as the tax stamps which lead to the creation of the USA. I don't own them not do I think they are in private hands. But WOW, to just see them.

I suggest you research the programs for the past US held internationals prior to 2006 and if not there, check the APS Summer Stamps Shows prior to 2011.


I think you are referring to the Antizzo collection of the Stamp Act of 1765 embossed revenues that was in the court of honor at Washington 2006 and New York 2016. His embossed revenues were sold in Siegel Sale 1210 in October 2019.
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I think you are referring to the Antizzo collection of the Stamp Act of 1765 embossed revenues that was in the court of honor at Washington 2006 and New York 2016. His embossed revenues were sold in Siegel Sale 1210 in October 2019.


While they were there as you say, I was not at either 2016 nor 2006 (which is why I suggested a date prior to 2006 for international shows). However a review of the Siegel Auction Catalog does not have an image that rings a bell in my memory to what I saw. His, Antizzo's, material was grand eye candy and historical documents as well.
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Posted 12/11/2022   07:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revenuermd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
parcelpostguy - Your illustrations of stamps from the Smithsonian. I find it highly doubtful that these were used on tea. The top illustration is a counter stamp used on the reverse of documents and indeed this shows that this stamp was used during the reign of George III. These documents were stamped in the stamp office in London.

Your recollection of tax on tea stamps may have been from the 1790's for the import duty on tea imposed by the first act of the new United States Congress. There is an embossed seal to authenticate these, often referred to as Supervisor Seals. The first issue Supervisor Seals are listed in Scott as RM501-514 and these were used on import documents for tea, wine, and distilled spirits. Their use on imported tea began April 1, 1791.
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I think you are referring to the Antizzo collection of the Stamp Act of 1765 embossed revenues that was in the court of honor at Washington 2006 and New York 2016. His embossed revenues were sold in Siegel Sale 1210 in October 2019.

I was fortunate to know Joe well for many years, and had many amazing historical items just handed to me to enjoy........
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Is There Renewed Interest In Revenue Stamps?


Nothing to see here citizens, move along, nothing to see.

I understand "Cats on Stamps" is all the rage and all the cool kids are doing that.

Nothing to see here....
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Posted 12/11/2022   10:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Nothing to see here citizens, move along, nothing to see.

I understand "Cats on Stamps" is all the rage and all the cool kids are doing that.



You must mean "Catwoman stamps"
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Nothing to see here citizens, move along, nothing to see.

I understand "Cats on Stamps" is all the rage and all the cool kids are doing that.

Nothing to see here....


Why yes... that is absolutely correct. Revenue stamps are horrible. I would never collect them. They'll give you cooties.



Seriously though, it's a double-edged sword. Encouraging and fostering interest and adoption serves the collecting community well in the long term (and will pay dividends down the line when those of us that are currently only semi-old coots go to sell our material), but it also creates for more competition in the short-term.

But this has always been the case in any collectibles field...
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Posted 12/11/2022   11:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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but it also creates for more competition in the short-term.


That is where our advanced knowledge and understanding of what material is actually important gives us the edge.
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Posted 12/12/2022   11:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lackemacher to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I welcome the increased competition brought about by education. Maybe someone will find and offer for sale some of the plate varieties I've been hunting for years.
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<quote> That is where our advanced knowledge and understanding of what material is actually important gives us the edge. </quote>

A word of warning - Importance of material can be highly subjective. What is important to one person, the next person could care less about. And importance can also have little to do with scarcity or valuation. Historic importance is a good example of this. Usage importance might be another.

I will also say advanced knowledge can give you an edge, but it can lead you down some bad roads. I have found that the more I learn about some topics in particular that have give me new insights into material, while have brought much joy, have also been very harmful to my wallet.




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Posted 12/12/2022   11:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampsRx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Love the discussion! Planning on buying a revenue album today, actually. How timely!
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My specialty is Thailand revenue stamps, I am both an active buyer and also an active seller of my duplicate stamps.

There is a strong growing interest in the revenue stamps of Thailand.
In the year 2000 there were worldwide about 10-15 active collectors of Thailand revenue stamps, now there are around 75-100.
There are several contributing factors why there are more collectors now.
1. The availability of a detailed handbook with pictures and listings of all known Thai revenue stamps.
( I am the co- author of this handbook). Knowing what you have and what you still need does create interest in this particular field
2. Frequent auctions of my excess material on ebay does create awareness and creates a market. When I describe my material, I do my best to give as much info and knowledge as possible waking up the interest of various new collectors.
3. Published revenue related articles in philatelic magazines (I am also a frequent writer) also creates new interests.

All the increased interest and increased amount of collectors is in my opinion very positive
Suddenly there are more sellers of Thailand revenue material. They sell because they now know that the unknown stamps they have are Thai revenues, realize there is interest from buyers.
There is now more material for sale than 20 years ago.
Yes, I now do frequently loose the bidding because of the more intense completion or I pay much more than I like, but at least there are more revenues available nowadays.

I am happy that I worked all those years actively promoting the Thai stamp revenue hobby and dispensing my knowledge.
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