Honduras 1896 President Arias Scott Note

Looking at a few of the Arias, are there different printings?

Here are the 3 I'm looking at. Is there even specialist material for these?










Scott only shows 1 issue in 1896.

At the end of the listing there is this in the footnote.

"reprints are on thicker, opaque paper and usually have a black cancellation "HONDURAS" between horizontal bars"

Were the reprints valid for postage?

You might checkout this link if you have not already.
http://www.hondurasstamps.com/1896arias.html
[blueThe above quantities were produced in two printings. The first printing was in the fall of 1895 for release on January 1, 1896. The second and larger printing was released in the spring of 1897 using completely new plates. General characteristics to distinguish the two printings have not been discovered in the literature. Anybody know how?][/blue]

Reading from Stanley Gibbons Part 3 1969 Page 363
Subtext
"Numerous forgeries of this issue are in circulation"

Perhaps "scanner reproduction" is at play here?
Gibbons declares the colour to be 10c "Orange Red"
Yours appears to be scarlet ?

Here is my example

Thanks Perf 12, I did find this site but missed the Arias part. I'll dig in tonight !

Rod, I'll list up the colors Scott lists but pretty sure they list Vermillion as the shade.

All the ones above I posted are on covers. I'll post the full covers when I get home from work later.

Here are the covers in the order the stamps were posted. I think they are fair representations of the shades I see.

Also Scott does list this stamp as #98 Vermillion and #98a Red

Here are my examples of divergence in colours etc, extraordinary !
Perf 12's link is fabulous,
I appear to have many "white faces" the stamps on bright white paper
appear to be all forgeries.

Thanks for posting those. I see quite a variety of shades in these printings and not sure any 2 are the same :)

I scanned this group of 5¢ that Scott lists as "purple" or Red / Violet.

All of these are on covers and all are postmarked 1898

Here is what I got in my forgery collection

The link provided by Perf12 explains this issue very well.

It does but they do not get into shades or colors.

They state 2 printings but also state;

"The second and larger printing was released in the spring of 1897 using completely new plates. General characteristics to distinguish the two printings have not been discovered in the literature. Anybody know how?"

Also Floortrader I hate to mention this but on your 2nd page you misspelled "also"

"Aso focus on forgeries by Varro E ... ... ...

Those are great pages.

The 8 in 1896?

I question the catalog ,when it says a later issue of this stamp is in the larger size , I believe it is a more heavy ink printing that cause the mis-identfaction .

I'm not yelling or upset just highlighting to be clear.
I'M JUST GUESSING but It SEEMS TO ME, like the third print(1897) had more pressure and a faster motion where used when rocking it in, thickening the design and stretching it something silly like 0.25mm, possibly the relief was rocked in individually by hand?
The first prints(1895) appear to be 1396 (political?) seems significant TO ME.
Second print (1896) retouched to 1896.
better scans of floortrader's forgeries specific to this stamp would help, they could just be fakes.
AGAIN I'M ONLY GUESSING!
I don't have any of my own, so it's BS based off the images provided.
Just a perspective, It opens the floor for more DISCUSSION.
Doesn't it?

The stamps are lithographed. You can learn about the process of lithography by utilizing Google (search engine).

Not really, Just fella,
You may be confusing others attempting to learn.
One needs to learn as best possible, the processes of stamp production
in order to understand the vagaries of stamp images.

I'd strongly encourage you to, seek out online, or used bookstores
Hard cover postage stamp literature

L N & M williams is a great start, one can pick up these aging books for pennies, and they are a wealth of information.

Mine cost a dollar



Note the chapters on printing