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Pelure Paper On Banknotes

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Posted 04/18/2023   11:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stephen-P to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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On another front: I spoke with the PF today and at present the only method for online payment is Paypal. However, I mentioned to them the problem with Paypal in Japan and suggested the WISE workaround, and they are going to look into it. That, however, is not official just yet.

I feel like I owe you a gift for how much you've helped me. You are truly a gentleman and a scholar, and I probably would have made some misguided decisions without the help you all have given me here.
I truly appreciate it.


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Unfortunately, I don't think that many, if any, certificates are going to give you any details/information on paper type unless the patient happens to be a Scott listed variety i.e., "very thin paper".


Absolutely. I think it would be frustrating to have done all this examination only to get a "yes" or "no" verdict in return.

This isn't to say I wouldn't be complacent with a "yes" or "no" answer for something already catalogued, because then I could put myself into the shoes of the examiner and see for myself what they were referencing.

But this situation is different. If the usual process is to compare the specimen with other known specimens, the best process here I'm assuming would be to see what it potentially "lacks" or "has" compared to the standard issues.

Let's say it does have something that standard issues do not: there is still another hurdle, rather, a psychological layer added to the final determination: even if the stamp has something that standard issues do not, would it be enough to motivate the PF into establishing a completely new variety?
This is admittedly a risky move as stated by Roger, Bart, and others regarding their reputation, and I completely understand why they wouldn't.

If the PF, PSE or any other grading service offered a full-breakdown of their analysis for additional fees I would be more than willing to pay it, but I think the best bet here would be to get it into the hands of experts for 'unofficial' opinions as recommended, and/or sent to a lab for analytical data.

It would benefit me as a collector to at least know that standard issues can sometimes look/feel the way this one does if nothing abnormal is detected, but this doesn't feel like a regular banknote in my very humble opinion.
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Posted 04/18/2023   12:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stephen-P to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Essayk- if they say anything about adding WISE to their payment methods please let me know! I still have a number of other stamps I'd like to send in.
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Posted 04/18/2023   12:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Unfortunately, I don't think that many, if any, certificates are going to give you any details/information on paper type unless the patient happens to be a Scott listed variety i.e., "very thin paper".


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Absolutely. I think it would be frustrating to have done all this examination only to get a "yes" or "no" verdict in return.


In my opinion the value is being able to verify your findings one way or the other and has little to do with being disappointed. The point of the thread was to teach and learn.

Does not matter if a thread is about stamp colors, grills, or paper types; they are all challenging topics which I believe require more than some online images and book learning to become a specialist. I do not think that this is a 100% virtually learned hobby.

In my opinion, the learning curve has to include 'stamp in hand' verification to validate personal observations.

I am done beating on these very long threads and attempting to bring them full circle by getting IRL third party closure (one way or the other). I guess many of them will stand without solid verifications for as long as SCF is around.
Don
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Posted 04/19/2023   08:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stephen-P to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the opportunity to discuss it, Don! I'll only update here if professionals have taken a gander at it.
Also, the invitation is still open to any of the collectors here through email who would like me to send it to them.
Thanks again everyone!
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