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A Few Questions About First Day Covers

 
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Posted 03/09/2023   8:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add TomSwift to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Still stuck in China with no access to reference books so I thought I would ask here.

1. Canada Post makes the Official First Day Covers. What was the first one they made officially?

2. Before the official ones, did they make unofficial ones, and if so, when did that start?

3. Does Canada Post make a First Day Cover for every stamp they release or just commemorative stamps?

4. I plan to buy a reference catalogue when I get back to Canada. Recomendations?

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Posted 03/09/2023   8:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add centerstage98 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The catalogue you want is the Unitrade Specialized Catalogue of Canadian Stamps by The Unitrade Press
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Posted 03/09/2023   8:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TomSwift to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The only version I have of that catalogue here is from 2012 and they don't have listings of first day covers. Do they now?
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Posted 03/09/2023   8:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add centerstage98 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I could be wrong, but I think the first Canada Post FDCs were for the Maple Leaves in Four Seasons set of four issued throughout 1971 - April 14, (Scott 535) June 16 (Scott 536), Sept. 3 (Scott 537) and Nov. 19 (Scott 538).

I have had Canadian experts tell me in no uncertain terms that the creation of FDCs by Canada Post thoroughly destroyed the new FDC market, as Canada Post outsold everyone and put private cachet makers out of business. There remain some private FDCs thereafter and those carry a premium, thus the following statement in the Unitrade catalog: PLEASE NOTE: From No. 535 on, FDCs with cachets other than Canada Post command a premium.
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Posted 03/09/2023   8:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add centerstage98 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The last column for each listing in the catalog is FDC.
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Posted 03/09/2023   8:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TomSwift to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. Years reading and re-reading that catalogue here and I never noticed that column. Just checked. Feel silly now. Thanks.
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Posted 03/09/2023   8:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add centerstage98 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am again not 100 percent, but I think Canada Post still creates FDCs for most products. It currently has 53 covers on sale on its website.
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Posted 03/09/2023   8:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add centerstage98 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hopefully a real expert will hop on here and offer a few more answers for you. Again, I am not sure, but uncertain whether Canada Post created any official FDCs before 1971.
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Posted 03/09/2023   9:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Check out this link to the Postal History Corner and scroll down
to Canada Post Office
General Purpose Cachets
1949 - 1973


https://postalhistorycorner.blogspo...t+day+covers
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Posted 03/09/2023   10:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TomSwift to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. So it looks like they used a generic image from 1949 until 1973, when they started to make colourful and individual images on the envelopes. How does something like this fit into this? If it is a private one, is there a name on it somewhere showing who designed it?


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Posted 03/09/2023   10:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is the Specialized Catalogue of Canada Post Official FDC
by A. Chung & R.F. Narbonne

Unitrade Associates has it for $21.95

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Posted 03/09/2023   10:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TomSwift to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And still a bit confused. They went from nice first day covers like the one I posted to generic ones in 1949?
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Posted 03/09/2023   11:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Post Office Department only started in 1949 with
these replacement FDCs
Prior to that they were all done by
private sources, just like yours was.

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Posted 03/10/2023   12:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TomSwift to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So if they were done by private sources, which one is listed in the Unitrade catalogue? An average price for all of them? I imagine there might be more variation in a specialized FDC catalogue but which ones are the default in the specialized Unitrade catalogue?
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Posted 03/10/2023   01:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like Northwind Stamps is selling a similar FDC as yours for $185.
They call it the George Eppstadt Cachet.


https://northwindstamps.com/product...-cachet-1927
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