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How Rare Is A Used Scott 596?

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Posted 10/06/2023   05:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Sol to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I own a used Scott 596 and would like to know if I can get it certified here in Europe. I am also interested in selling it so any tips or suggestions would be most welcome

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Posted 10/06/2023   05:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If it really is a Scott 596, you might as well spend the extra money to have it certified by a US-based expertiser.

Before you do so, you might want to post a clear scan (not picture) of the front and back of your stamp. There are plenty very experienced people who can tell you whether it is money well spend to have it expertised.
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Posted 10/06/2023   05:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You can search this forum for multiple threads which will help you understand how to properly ID US Washington/Franklin stamps. Alternatively, you can also use the Stamp Smarter website which will give you all the information on how ID your stamps.

For example
https://stampsmarter.org/learning/I...arities.html
See bottom of page for Appendix 1 - Do I have a 594 or 596? –A Collector's Guide to Identification

or this page
https://stampsmarter.org/learning/M...methods.html

Don
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Posted 10/06/2023   06:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sol to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the suggestions the stamp is a Scott 596.
I thought the photo would be helpful for some as it stands next to its more common counterpart perf 11 flat plate showing you the color and size difference between the two. I understand that as it is a US stamp it should be certified in the US but as I am living in Finland I would prefer to find some place closer to home for getting it done.
So far, everyone to which I have shown the stamp have confirmed both its size and perforation to be the one of the 596 and everyone have like you suggested to get it certified in the US, but once again, I am still hoping to find experts able to help me closer to my home.
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Posted 10/06/2023   06:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No, no one has suggested it is a 596. The fact that you are measuring the stamp (or the people you showed it to) indicates a lack of understanding on how to ID a 596. And thinking that you can use a non-US organization to certify a stamp worth that kind of money is crazy. Please read this
https://stampsmarter.org/learning/I...arities.html
See bottom of page for Appendix 1 - Do I have a 594 or 596? –A Collector's Guide to Identification

Then come back and explain how your stamp does or does not fit the criteria to be a 596.
Don

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Posted 10/06/2023   06:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You might try the Royal Philatelic Society London's expert committee.

https://rpsl.limited/Experts/Certif...-Application

That one may still be taken seriously even by American collectors.

The photo shows very little. All detail is lost and the stamps are only a small detail of a much larger picture. Scans provide a much better picture.

But truly: do yourself a favour and post a good scan of front and back. If you are that convinced it is a Scott 596, people may confirm it. If they think differently, they may tell you why, so you can check whether it is wise to spend money on expertising. You can always ignore advise and have it expertised anyway.
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Posted 10/06/2023   06:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am not aware of any 596 that has been sold in the last 20-25 years without a PF cert and decent provenance.
Don
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Posted 10/06/2023   08:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sol to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes and no :) yes as I wrote the measurements, color and looks are confirming it to be a Rotary plate 596.
And no I am not mistaking Don, it is a 596.
About the royal philatelic society, I think I already tried to contact them and they also told me they can't certify this type of rare US stamps, nevertheless that was some time ago so I will try asking them again if you know someone in their organisation which may be able to help me, please send me a link
About scanning I don't know where my scanner went:) somewhere in storage
Also my apologies for the low resolution photo I am not very practical with this type of things. Any how what I would like to know is, (after certification) what would its value be?
Thx
Sol
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Posted 10/06/2023   08:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's not a 596 until someone with authority says it is, no matter how much you may wish otherwise. The RPSL is very likely the only organization or individual outside the USA that buyers would recognize for the stamp you believe this to be; I'm not aware of a private-individual Ferchenbauer or Karasek equivalent for American stamps anywhere within 3000km of you. If you're unwilling to send it to RPSL, PF, or APS, then just put the stamp back in the drawer where you found it, because neither your opinion nor that of your friends really matters in this case.
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Posted 10/06/2023   08:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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About the royal philatelic society, I think I already tried to contact them and they also told me they can't certify this type of rare US stamps,


From its website: "All British, Commonwealth and Foreign items are accepted and each item must be accompanied by a separate completed 'Application for Certificate' form."
Are you really trying to tell us they only certify common US stamps? They do state "all" stamps.

Well a Ukrainian member of this site comes to mind. He was considering certifying a #596 only yesterday.

Other than that, if the 'Royal' does not expertise rare US stamps, you have no opportunity left but to look at US expertisers.


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I will try asking them again if you know someone in their organisation which may be able to help me, please send me a link


I provided you a link above. The mail address is at the bottom of the page.
Since you do not have enough posts here, you cannot be contacted, nor can you contact members.
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Posted 10/06/2023   08:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
May be able to determine if it has a chance by seeing the back right now.
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Posted 10/06/2023   08:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hunter123cc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No #596, take stamp 581 with 10 perforations, place it on top of each other along the lines, your stamp will be wider along the margins and should be slightly narrower than #581.
Here is an example, #596 and #581
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Posted 10/06/2023   08:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sol to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Haha why do you get so angry on someone who got lucky? I am confident enough to tell you that it is not just my personal opinion. The stamp as been physically checked by many professionals in Europe and I am more than confident in my and their opinions.
Also one of the APF directors recommended to send it in for certification so I am very confident in what I got.
What was the question asked on this tread was regarding the value of a Scott 596, and not a question regarding the authenticity of mine.
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Posted 10/06/2023   08:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If I thought I owned extreme high value rarity that I wanted to sell, I would want to generate the highest amount of confidence possible to capture the largest number of potential buyers, the highest amount of competition, and the highest amount of return. Given that this decision might mean the difference between many thousands of dollars, I would use PF for US rarities. And if I thought I had a Great Britain Edward VII 6d Pale Dull Purple I.R. Official stamp, I would use the Royal.
Don
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Posted 10/06/2023   09:00 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
But you don't need to ask about value here - just search auction sales for 596s.
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Posted 10/06/2023   09:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sol to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for the suggestions and links I will post the certification report (after I get one) with more photos to help others to identify this rare stamp
Sol
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