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Question About Stamp #334 (#360?)

 
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Posted 10/20/2023   5:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add dittrich to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
By chance while sorting, I noticed the bottom stamp, which seemed too gray, maybe you can see it in the picture?
the top stamp should have a first day cancellation?
both are Perf 12 and double line watermarks.



what is your opinion on the two stamps?
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Posted 10/20/2023   5:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your stamp is known in orange-brown, light brown and dark brown. Perfectly normal.

Not sure what the first day cancel reference applies to.
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Posted 10/20/2023   5:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much, I thought the paper was too white and gray for me, maybe you don't see it that way
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Posted 10/20/2023   5:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see a brownish patina.
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Posted 10/20/2023   6:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


The stamp at the bottom is already very white on the front and back, but the one on top is very gray to me. But it's always the eye that perceives it differently. Too gray for me personally
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Posted 10/21/2023   12:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Why are you concerned about grayish paper on the stamp dittrich?
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Posted 10/21/2023   04:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Such strikingly gray paper and compared to several #334s is very unusual.

https://www.philatelicfoundation.or...-360-010.jpg

You could compare purely from the pictures, even in paper.
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Edited by dittrich - 10/21/2023 04:28 am
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Posted 10/21/2023   3:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see that you edited the topic title to add "360". Not a chance my friend. I figured that was what this was really about.
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Posted 10/21/2023   9:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


I suggest you purchase a lower cost Blue Paper with a certificate and use that to learn the paper shade in question.

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Posted 10/22/2023   2:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stephen-P to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great that you're doing your own research, dittrich. Kudos to you for that.

Here's my advice:
I wouldn't be using the PF's images for any type of color study, because:
1) the scanned images all show vastly different quality
2) there are no side-by-side examples in the same scan that would give us a good understanding of how different both paper types are.

I'm glad that they have pictures at all since it at least gives us a window into what they looked at, but they shouldn't be used to expertize our own.

PPG gives the best advice which is purchasing a cheap copy as the key reference for your search.

When you do obtain one, I'd also like to add that it's extremely important to expect potential shade differences of the same color, as these are two different spectrums that are both relevant to the search.
Meaning: if you do obtain one copy of bluish paper, do not expect every other bluish paper to be just as light or just as dark as the one you have.
This is the same as any other general issue. You will see that the papers of the same stamp can be lighter or darker, but that does not classify it as a separate type of paper.
Here is an example of two Sc#462's, one way brighter than the other:




In my opinion, this is why the term "bluish paper" is used rather than "grayish paper" since it focuses on the color difference rather than the shade.

These are just my observations. Not financial advice.
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Posted 10/23/2023   2:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
***NSK - Opps this should be here (my bad, sorry - Don)***
https://goscf.com/t/85363
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