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Curious R19c Dt Determination By The Philatelic Foundation

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Posted 11/21/2023   12:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Exactly my point. There is significant intersection between the terms but both get overused in their context, creating even more confusion.
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Posted 11/21/2023   12:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Double transfer" usually gets overused by people who think they have one but do not. They have over inking, or under inking, or something else but they lack the knowledge about what a double transfer actually is. I collect them, so I am used to looking at them.
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Posted 11/22/2023   09:31 am  Show Profile Check 3193zd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 3193zd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So I talked to a friend at the APS and he looked at this stamp for me and said this would be determined to be a kiss imprint. For the same reasons we discussed on the forum. The doubling is only on the right side not the whole stamp. Here is how they define a kiss imprint: It will only be found on flat plate printings and it happens when the blank sheet of paper to be printed is laid on the inked plate incorrectly then lifted and repositioned properly or the sheet is laid down correctly but has a small wave in the paper that is flattened as it goes through the printing process. A double imprint: is when a blank sheet of paper is printed on a weakly inked plate then the same sheet is run again on a properly inked plate.It will be a complete but weak impression with an equally complete but offset strong second impression. But another person at the APS provided this input "However, the Scott catalog regards both as double impressions, to the dismay of experts. To Scott, the result is whats important, not the cause.
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Posted 11/22/2023   09:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That is for engraved double impressions, of course. Offset printings have double impressions as well, but are caused either by going through the press twice or by improper cleaning after printing. Both are called "double impressions".
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Posted 11/22/2023   10:37 am  Show Profile Check 3193zd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 3193zd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On engraved double impressions would 2 impressions show up on a foil transfer? I would assume yes. And on a kiss imprint would any the kiss imprint show up on a foil transfer? I would assume never on a kiss.
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Posted 12/06/2023   4:39 pm  Show Profile Check 3193zd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 3193zd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I assume this is another double impression. Full brown frame of stamp doubled. Different inking process. The left top corner shows the second impression the best.



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