Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Thousands of stamps, consistently graded, competitively priced and hundreds of in-depth blog posts to read








Stamp Community Forum
 
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

New Member Just Inherited Massive Collection,

Next Page    
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 26 / Views: 1,238Next Topic
Page: of 2
Valued Member
United States
17 Posts
Posted 11/07/2023   8:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Implement to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I need to do it justice and show it off, learn everything about it, and perhaps even make it even better!

I look forward to many a night here.
Send note to Staff

Pillar Of The Community
United States
2830 Posts
Posted 11/07/2023   8:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Welcome!
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
220 Posts
Posted 11/07/2023   10:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add paddle_more to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome. Congratulations on the new goods. Massive to you, could mean tiny to some. Please give a description in terms of countries, eras, etc.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
17 Posts
Posted 11/08/2023   07:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Implement to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is something like 20 scott international albums which seem mostly full but realistically if you add up all the missing spaces I would say its probably 40-50% complete. These seem to be mostly used cancelled stamps. 1850's onwards. There are some stamps for every country, some country's are complete. He seemed big on Germany, Hungary, Portugal, Italy, and the US. I have spot checked alot of stamps and there are 5,000$ prices for some of them even used and cancelled. I will show them all here I promise.

Then there are 5-6 albums just for Mint stamps, a couple international focused albums but majority are US. Alot of duplicated effort I dont know. He seemed to like putting together albums.

Then there is an ungodly amount of First day Covers, seemingly almost complete from 1950 to 2002 (the year he died). There is lots of envelopes from late 1800's to 1930's that dont seem to be first day issues, but something else. Maybe just things that interested him. Lots of post cards from all over the world with cancels and stamps on them.

There is a garbage bags full of stamps cut off from their envelopes, mostly from 1910 to 1950's.
There are smaller quart sized bags with stamps cut off from envelopes from the 1960 and 1970's.

There are 6 three foot long boxes of glassine envelopes that hold plate blocks, and packed full of misc stamps from a certain country. Basically its sorted into country's.
There are a couple of boxes that are labeled with scott numbers from the US. Appears to be scott 200-1250 mostly complete.

There are cigar boxes full of 1900-1920 1 cent and 2 cent stamps.

There was shoe boxes full of loose stamps that I have since sorted by country and put into glassine envelopes. I was kind of surprised that it was a mixture containing stamps from the late 1800's to 1950's. Bulk I would say is 1930's. (This is the first and only thing I have done with the collection in the two weeks I have had it). This has been sitting in my grandmother's house since early 2000's. I never felt right going and cleaning it out while my grandmother was still alive, even though he had left it to me when he died.

There is LOTS of other misc boxes, books, supplies, loose stamps. There are US MINT SETS from 1970-1990. There are a bunch of WWII US mint sets. There are books upon books that have folders full of stamps in no particular order like he just stuck them in because of color or topic. There are some boxes full of glassines in no discernable order.

Right now I am just trying to get a handle on what is here. I have started to sort the loose stamps into country's and get them protected in glassine. I also went through alot of the boxes and just tidy'd up the numbering system putting things in the right places in the right order.

I bought an up to date SCOTT CATALOG volume 1-6 so that I can begin to understand what I have. NOT CHEAP BY THE WAY.

I am also thinking of picking up some software (ALSO NOT CHEAP).

THERE ARE SOME VERY INTERESTING THINGS I WANT TO SHOW PEOPLE. There is some old Roman stamps, labeled 1700's. I have only found one website that even mentioned them. And it was not the exact one (it was the same just in a different denomination and color). So hopefully someone can give me some information on them. What it could be worth. I understand 1850s are generally recognized as the first "stamp" so I'm sure they are something else but they are old from some sort of roman colony and they sure look like postage stamps.

This was also the collection my grandfather had inherited from his father. I just know my grandfather was ALWAYS working on his stamps. He has membership cards from dozens of Philatelic groups. He was president of some. He loved trading stamps because he has records of it. He seemed to send out these packets of stamps to other people and they would send something and they would all pick what they want. He did this even with Philatelic groups overseas.

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by Implement - 11/08/2023 07:59 am
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2941 Posts
Posted 11/08/2023   07:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can help you out with anything German. For anything German up to 1945, you can also use the website in my footer as a reference. The page to search for a specific stamp is here.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Presenting the GermanStamps.net Collection - Germany, Colonies, & Occupied Territories, 1872-1945
Bedrock Of The Community
12564 Posts
Posted 11/08/2023   07:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I have spot checked alot of stamps and there are 5,000$ prices for some of them even used and cancelled. I will show them all here I promise.



Quote:
Appears to be scott 200-1250 mostly complete.


These two statements hone in on how we can tell you if your on the right track when assessing value. There are not a lot of stamps that catalog $5000 used and Scott 200-1250 includes quite a few very expensive stamps. If you were to post some pics of what you think are $5000 stamps and pricier Scott numbers (241-245 for example) you will get honest feedback.

Notes: If using ebay to establish retail values approach with caution.

Condition is everything.

Get a perforation gauge and some watermark identification supplies. Without them you will not get far.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
17 Posts
Posted 11/08/2023   08:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Implement to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is one Persian/Iran stamp that catalogs for 5000$ used.

There are a couple of US stamps that he has that seemingly are 5000$+. US #2? He has #1-#20 (I think missing a couple actually like some offshoot versions), there were a few of them actually that seemed to go for that. Some stamp sites list them higher.

He has ALOT of #20-200 maybe 50% complete.

From what I see alot of those all value in the hundreds to thousands.

ebay has ridiculous prices even for seemingly worthless stamps, give me a little credit. I use Scott catalog values or mystic stamp or hipstamp or one other that seemed halfway decent. Alot of random sites I find as well that seemed legit and talked more in depth about them.

I have perforation guides and a watermark tray. I need to get some solution and it seems scary to dip stamps into a liquid so I need to play with that with some non valuable stamps first. I also have quite a few stamp identification books but they all seemed to be published before 1950 so I went and picked up the latest Scott catalog, for a ridiculous price. I figure the investment will be worth it.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by Implement - 11/08/2023 08:14 am
Bedrock Of The Community
12564 Posts
Posted 11/08/2023   08:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Persian stamps are a minefield of reprints, fakes and forgeries. Probably the worst. I have never seen a used Scott 2 sell for $5000. I am not trying to deflate you but I suspect that you need to temper your expectations quite a bit. For instance, Scott 1-20 includes some very expensive stamps.

Let me ask you this:

Are there any certificates for any of the stamps from the Philatelic Foundation, PSE, APS or PSAG?

If not that is not a good sign. If so, that is a good sign.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
17 Posts
Posted 11/08/2023   08:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Implement to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Almost all of them are certified APS?APEX?.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by Implement - 11/08/2023 08:18 am
Bedrock Of The Community
12564 Posts
Posted 11/08/2023   08:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So, you are saying that almost all of the stamps have a certificate from the expertizing bodies I mentioned above? If so, that is very good and quite remarkable. Can you post some pics?
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
17 Posts
Posted 11/08/2023   08:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Implement to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Of course, and yes I have actually already read quite a bit on persian forgeries. A part of me says that there is no way he would have forgeries in his collection. Then again he had loose stamps everywhere, stamps just hinged in an album that I consider valuable, cigar boxes full of duplicate upon duplicate that seemingly sell for like 10$ a piece. No protection other then the protection that the next stamp sitting on top offers.

But he has this Persian stamp prominently displayed and it is NOT one of the ones that are sitting in a big plastic certificate so who knows. Its actually listed 4800 used in catalog, 14,000 mint I believe.

I intend to find out though if it is real. It looks real, it looks old, its not in perfect shape.

Thats brings up a good question, I see ALOT of stamps that just dont look right. I did alot of comparison so far on stamps he has to what is selling, and people are selling some sketchy looking stamps. LIke I imagine alot of his examples of stamps are good, but people sell stamps that look pristine , no fading, bright colors like it was just printed the day before. Whereas his stamps look old, faded, and arent perfect.

There must be ALOT of stamp forgery. More then people realize. I cant imagine how someone would get the pristine examples of stamps that they have if they werent faked.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
17 Posts
Posted 11/08/2023   08:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Implement to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Im going to post the persian stamp here first, and im going to make a seperate thread for the US stamps in the US stamp forum because Its really something else and involves a trip to the safety deposit..

Also rdg I dont remember if it was the #2, that was just a guess off my head. It was one of the early US stamps. #3? #4?

I know the #1 was like 500$ or something.

I did collect stamps as a kid but this is mostly all new to me. Im a couple of weeks green to this
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by Implement - 11/08/2023 09:01 am
Pillar Of The Community
Netherlands
6530 Posts
Posted 11/08/2023   08:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Are there any certificates for any of the stamps from the Philatelic Foundation, PSE, APS or PSAG?



Quote:
But he has this Persian stamp prominently displayed and it is NOT one of the ones that are sitting in a big plastic certificate so who knows.


Are you guys speaking the same language?
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
716 Posts
Posted 11/08/2023   09:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hoosierboy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Implement,

What a wonderful family herritage. A bit overwhelming to just jump into but, take your time, it will be a great journey of discovery. Hopefully, you are just the current steward of this collection in route to future generations in your family.

Collecting for the enjoyment of collecting, whatever that might be, is the name of the game. Don't hesitate to ask questions especially if you need basic information and especially more advanced sources of information for any possible topic. You should be able to find folks on this board a little further along on their collecting journey glad to share experiences.

My personal bias is a used stamp loses the story of its journey in the postal service when it is removed from the cover it transported to its destination. Collecting postal history adds a whole new aspect to your journey in our hobby.

Wishing you many enjoyable future days in our hobby. Russ
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
17 Posts
Posted 11/08/2023   09:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Implement to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry took me awhile to find the album it was in.

It is actually an un-used

Persia #31 type B22 violet bronze

according to https://www.stampworld.com/en/stamps/Iran/

Listed at 4800$

This is just one example of a 1876 coat of arms stamp, he has most of them that I can post for comparison. For example he has the 214$ violet one and you can compare the color to this one and they are different, I know some people will say this is the violet one. I thought it was until I compared it to images.

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by Implement - 11/08/2023 11:47 am
Valued Member
United States
17 Posts
Posted 11/08/2023   10:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Implement to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I realize this is a once in a blue moon type of collection. I am NOT selling it and yes It is incredibly exciting. I will most likely insure it however. I have been neck deep in philately since coming into possession of it. I always knew it was there, I just had no idea what it contained. There are lots of duplicates so I will probably want to trade for things he doesn't have and try to keep it going.

I remember going to a stamp show with him when I was very young, Lots of people knew who he was. His name was Lou aka Lucien. I doubt anyone is old enough here but who knows...


I remember him mentioning that alot of his philatelic friends gifted their collections to him when they died. I know he donated things as well.

He was president of a Massachusetts based philatelic group out of Attleboro and Easton. He was obviously a member of the Rhode Island Philatelic Society. And the American Philatelic SOciety, as well as many others including overseas.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by Implement - 11/08/2023 10:14 am
Page: of 2 Previous TopicReplies: 26 / Views: 1,238Next Topic  
Next Page
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

Go to Top of Page

Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2026 Stamp Community Forums
It took 0.25 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05