I-Grills Horizontal Pair Jackson Scott 135A Certified

This pair was certified as I-Grills from the PF. They wrote that the stamps has staining on Jacksons faces. I can't tell if this is the case (must water the stamps first). It could also be from the cancel. Before I do that I ask you what you think it is and if a pair scott 135A has "only" twice the value of a single 135 A or if pairs are valued much higher. Thanks.

I sense English is not your first language.. They wrote "staining on the face of both stamps", which I interpret as face = front, and meaning what appears to be scotch tape soaking through from the reverse side at the top of the pair onto the face side, the front side. If tape, soaking in water will not help. It will need the care of a professional conservator.

I would leave the stamps as a pair.

face = Bildseite, not Gesicht.

If anyone soaks a stamp with a cert, is it now invalid?

John Becker, NSK now I understand it's the front of the stamps that is meant. What it is can't detect exactly (will look with magnifier), maybe it's the hinge (or scotch paper). Thanks.

It does look like the gum of the hinge has permeated the paper.

There might be a value for a pair right in the Scott catalogue. I can't remember and I am not near one to look. In general pairs are worth more than double. How much more depends on the issue. With this stamp, I would not say a pair carries a significant premium.

The tape stains (if that's what they are) will negatively impact value to a much greater extent.

I don't think the PF did a very good job on this cert. If I had the stamps in front of me, I am pretty certain that I would have concluded that the grill is actually a split H-grill, Scott #135. Oh well.

can you take another picture with the light more form the side not straight down so we can pick up the grill better?

I attached some pictures with other angle of lighning on the back of the stamp.

Definitely a split H-grill. Not even really all that close to looking like an I-grill.

Thank you, Sinclair.
Don

A little difficult to see, but the grill appears to be a minimum of 11 points across and it is probably 12 points across. I count 14 vertical points which would eliminate if from being an "I" grill.

Both my 2014 and 2024 Scott US Specialized catalogues list $300 for a used single of 135A; pairs are not even mentioned.

2024 SCV for a split-H grilled 135 used single is only $100 and $180 for a used pair with full grill.

You might want to submit this to PF for reconsideration if you paid a large fee for the cert. To me, the split H isn't worth the cert fee. YMMV.

@sinclair 2010




You really think that the PF can't differentiate between a splitted H-grill, and I-grill? They shurely have reference material to assess this stamps correctly a I -grills. Don't understand your concerns, can you proove it that's a splitted h-grill?
Or better solution go directly to the PF and tell your concerns there abouth those stamps .

@51 studebaker


sounds like sinclair has the last words abouth this stamps, no he has not. it's the PF.
(and when you block me because of this post, it shows only that free expression is not allowed in this forum).

@wtcrowe


You counted wrong vertical 13 point horizontal 11 points




For what?, again people that think they can differentiate which Grill stamp has regarding of some scans can't be so trustful.
People that see it otherwise regarding the I-Grill can write it in other manner like: I have some doubts because .............that this stamps are not I-Grills, but of course I can't tell it for shure because of some scans. But you write it's shure not an I-Grill despite the fact that the PF looked meticulous at the stamps. So can take your inputs too seriously.

@stamphunter1
Why in the world would you take a cheap shot at me just because I thanked Sinclair2010 for posting? And while I should not have to explain myself to you, I will. I was thanking him for posting, like I have many times for many other people. I know his level of experience, and I know how much he posts. These things led me to thanking him for participating and sharing his US stamp experience.
And since you are also wrong (so far) about being locked...I'll await your apology for your incorrect assumption.
Don

Edited for typos

wtcrowe is correct.
I count at least 14 points vertically, and it even looks like there are 15 or 16.