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In its sales information, Davo gives the date range for each of its Luxe country albums but not the number of pages, Can anyone tell me how many pages a Luxe binder typically holds? Thanks.
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Thank you, classic_paper. I just found an ad for a Davo Blank Luxe Album. It comes with 60 pages, though of course that may not be the maximum capacity. |
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Here is a list of the number of pages with mounts included in each of the Dutch volumes. The set of pages for Volume III consists of 81 pages. The sets for Volumes V - VII have 73 pages each and that for Volume IV consists of 70 pages. https://davo.nl/webshop/luxe-postze...i-1852-1944/That should give you an idea how many pages an album should hold: 70 to 80, |
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In my experience, the claimed maximum number of pages in many albums is a bit optimistic. Lighthouse albums hold maybe 80 pages and the same with Davo. It depends on how thick the pages are but also on whether or not you use mounts or hinges with mounts obviously adding to the thickness of the pages so you will need to use fewer pages in a binder. Stamp hinges means more pages can be used. I've found it's always best to underestimate.
I've counted the actual album pages in my own albums:
Scott Specialty 2-post binders (3" wide): !20-130 pages (with stamps). A souvenir sheet inside a stamp mount on an album page makes for a very thick page! Small-size Scott 3-ring binders (c. 1.5" wide) - 65 pages max. Lighthouse turn-bar binders - 80 pages max. Davo binders - also about 80 pages max. Marini 22-ring binders - 50 pages
As an example of how maximum page counts can differ, earlier cloth-covered Davo binders could hold at least 130-140 pages, maybe even 150 if you used hinges, due to having thinner pages. I imagine Davo's move to using/selling only thicker pages in their newer padded vinyl binders might have at least been partly motivated by the fact that collectors now must buy more binders. As an example of this, half of my Belgium collection (the 1840s-1970 part) fits comfortably in an older one-volume cloth-covered Davo binder with the thinner pages that I bought in Belgium in 1971. That was all they sold back then. All the rest of my collection which covers "only" 1971-2000 or so, requires four (yes 4) padded binders with much thicker pages in them. Did Belgium issue more stamps for the later era? Probably. But the difference in the number of pages required is still astonishing. In both types of binders, I use stamp mounts.
If you use smaller binders, using more binders is the obvious solution. And you'll be able to pick them up with one hand, not be as likely to drop them as you would with larger heavier binders, and the pages will lie flatter. When filled with pages, larger binders such as the huge largest-size Scott 3-ring binder and the enormous "jumbo"-size Scott International binder are almost impossible to lift with one hand. And they present a real danger of being dropped which can damage a binder badly.
Unlike ring binders, all post-mounted binders curve the pages at least a little along their spine. This is not a problem in smaller binders, but in larger 2-post binders that curve is very pronounced so (especially if you're using hinges) even getting some stamps to stay stuck on the pages can take some effort. And turning the pages can be more difficult. Look at the enormous Harris and Minkus worldwide albums if you want to see these problems. Hundreds of pages but very unwieldy to use. I've found using two smaller binders nearly always better to use than one large one. Not as cheap, though.
Whatever you do, have fun!
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| Edited by DrewM - 06/17/2024 5:02 pm |
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We can have a long discussion about claimed capacities. Fact is that 'Netherlands Volume IV' has 81 hingeless pages, i.e. with the mounts attached. |
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Very helpful, NSK and DrewM. I agree that some of the claimed maximums are optimistic. It seems better for the stamps, the pages, and the binders to "underfill" albums somewhat. |
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DAVO has its pages produced somewhere in Germany. They, likely, do a better job than any one of us. They, also, use self-adhesive hingeless mounts that do not curl the paper. So, it would be wise to underfill when you are creating your own pages. |
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| Edited by NSK - 06/17/2024 4:48 pm |
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Using page "spacers" which are those cardboard strips you add every once in awhile along the spine side of pages helps spread pages out to compensate for the thickness of the stamps and mounts on the pages. This does reduce the number of pages you can put into a binder, but if you don't use them you will get that weird page bulge that spreads out the covers of the album. Don't overfill your album is the best approach. Rather strangely, I think, Scott calls its cardboard strips "filler strips," a name I can never remember when I'm searching for page spacers. . |
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The pre-printed albums used to come with the strips, but the blank ones not. One thing DAVO pages have is a fold that allows the pages to lay flat. But the strips, indeedm are advised. |
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