Did That Shade Sc#64A , Did The Other One Unlisted Shade.

did the stamp in the middle is scott 64a

also this shade I didnt see before its choclate brown



any help from dear members.

I see 4 copies of Scott 65.

dear @John thee last one is brown in color while scott 65 is rose color or shades of rose , so let me learn more , and thanks in advance.

In addition to all the shades, this issue can be affected by chemical changes as well. Brown examples are not uncommon because of it.

dear@ revcollector , did you agree with me the last one is brown , then if you agree how to relate to scott number , also I got about 50 pcs and from a time I got about 500 pcs and I always got trouble to relate shades to catalog.

It's usually a bad idea to call shades by specific names form a PC scan. Too many variables. They are all dark enough to know that there is no pink in any of them, but that is about all.

dear@ revcollector I understand you , you are right , I may confuse in pink or rose pink and rose shades, but brown is very distinct from those shades.

revcollector already answered your question


So what you have is a chemical/environmental change that made one of your copies brown. It is still a 65, though some would say it is now damaged and less valuable than other copies.

thanks dear @Partime ,any how chemical changes may change color but in my sense not in that shade of color , I know the stamp not in your hands..

The brown color shows up throughout the years of 1861-67.
I am not saying that the OP's stamp that he declared was brown is one of the known shades of brownish carmine rose, rose brown, lake brown, brown lake, brown, light brown or the others. I am suggesting that to jump to any conclusion that "if it's brown, it must be discolored", isn't always true with #65. Anything printed in '66 or '67 has a high likelihood of being one of the brown shades.

To the OP, as others have mentioned, it's not feasible to ID color over the internet. For the 3 cent 1861, you need the stamp in hand, and it's much more likely to be Id'd with the stamp on a year-dated cover. Hope this is helpful, Ray

thanks dear @Ray , I agree with and ii always think about a method to standardize color description because in many ways its not something clear as I got some mint stamps for USA others for another countries a stamp the catalog say it is carmine for one country compare to another country stamp also catalog say it is carmine while there is a greeat difference in shade same for dark prussiaan blue , ultramarine, some day I do a test with an artist he is a painter I show him stamps and ask him to name me the colors of them he give me different shades than the names of catalogs also I do the same test with some worker in a printing office also the same result ,also take the color template for scott for stanley and for any company work in the field of color no one is agree with other.