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I Can't Figure Out The Sweden Gustaf A55 And A60. Can You Help?

 
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Posted 12/03/2024   04:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Mastodon to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Looking at the King Gustaf issue of 1939 (A55) and 1940 type (A60) has me confused. My album spots for Scott 280, 281, and 289 remain empty although I may (or may not) have these stamps. I just took my pile of assorted Gustaf A55 and A60 out last night to see if I could figure anything out, but I really can't.

The catalog says that "number 300 differs slightly from the original due to deeper engraving," but I can't find any side-by-side comparisons of the two types. An Internet search reveals stamps being offered as A55 types, but they look no different from A60 ones to me.

Do you have both types identified? If so, would you be willing to show side-by-side images and offer suggestions as to how I might discern one from the other? My eyesight isn't as good as it used to be, but with my glasses and a magnifier I can see my stamps fairly well.

I'm SO tired of those empty spaces when I have NO IDEA what I'm trying to find on these stamps :-}

Thanks for reading this!!

Josh
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Posted 12/03/2024   04:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You might help specialists help you. They, probably, are using FACIT and may not use Scott. Descriptions or pictures (of the spaces) may be better understood than Scott numbers.
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Posted 12/03/2024   11:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add j2186 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

I just had a look at my copies. I see the difference between the two types in the background. In A55 it is a uniform dark colour, while in A60 it varies from very light near the head to dark near the edges of the stamp. If you have a pile of these, the A55 will have a considerably deeper colour than the others.

I don't have my examples scanned, but if nobody steps up, I will do this later.

Jan
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Posted 12/03/2024   2:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add madbaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I use the Facit catalogue for Sweden so I'm not totally sure how they translate to Scott. But the excellent Swedish Definitive blog describes the two types in a bit of detail. Perhaps it will help you?

I found this blog invaluable when making sense of early Swedish issues. (well, 1937 - 1970 "early") :)

https://swedishdefinitives.blogspot...type-ii.html
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Posted 12/03/2024   2:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add madbaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just dug out my Scott Catalogue to see if I could find the differences. I *think* Scott splits A55 and A60 based on what Facit calls the 'small numeral' and 'large numeral' sets.

The first (A55) set has smaller numerals denoting the denomination than the later set. They are quite easy to distinguish.

The blog I linked to above has nice photos of each set so take a look, it might be all you need to tell them apart.

PS - Facit lists two die types for the 15 ore large numeral stamp (Facit 275I and 275II) but Scott doesn't list a difference as far as I can tell. Both are Scott 300D.

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Posted 12/03/2024   3:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add j2186 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I used Michel to separate these issues. Here are my copies of the 10 and 20 ore stamps. (Type I corresponds to Scott A55 and Type II to A60 (I hope))





Besides the difference I mentioned earlier, note the difference in the fonts of the numerals. The same comments apply to the 20 ore below.






Jan
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Posted 12/03/2024   4:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The size of the numerals is a much better indicator than the background...
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Posted 12/03/2024   7:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add aolsson to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As you can see the difference between A55 and A60 is quite obvious, but even if you have a large number of these they may all be A60. Only 3% of 10öre was A55 and 1% of the 20öre. Most of the A55s are used 1939 or early 1940 so if your stamps comes from kiloware from the mid 1940ies probably all are A60
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Posted 12/04/2024   04:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mastodon to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, thanks for all the info!

I located a purple 10o 280 in my accumulation of this type. It's the 1939 kind. The numerals are shorter and different, and I see that the crosshatching in the background is different as well.

I'll post an image of my find (next to a 302 re-engraved example) later.

I really appreciate the help!!

Josh
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