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Can This Stamp Be Identified Somehow?

 
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Posted 12/09/2024   12:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Native to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have tons and tons of these old covers around and for the longest time I've wondered how, if at all, they can be identified.


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Posted 12/09/2024   1:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You can start here:

https://stampsmarter.org/1847usa/wa...d32perf.html

You will need a perforation gauge. If you don't have one you can find one to print out at the site above. Watermarks will eventually come into play depending upon the stamps but that would require the removal of the stamp(s) from the cover which I strongly advise against. The Big Timber postmark is already pretty cool and likely desirable to someone.

I or others can hep you with the different types of these issues. Just post good pics like you just did and ask for some help.
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Posted 12/09/2024   1:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Native to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the reply, I do have a couple of perf gauges. I was just in my Scott catalog trying to figure out which series were available up to 1914. As for removing a stamp from a cover.. I'm amateur enough the thought of it scares me out of my boots lol.
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Posted 12/09/2024   1:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
At that late date it really has to be 375; no need to worry about lifting it.
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Posted 12/09/2024   2:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In this case we can use the postmark to narrow things down. This design was issued from 1912-21 but based upon first day of issue dates and this not being a coil stamp or imperforated we can narrow it down to Scott numbers 406, 425, 423E or 423B. We need to know the perforation rate to decide, and we can see that it is 12. That makes it a Type I Scott 406 with single line watermark first issued in 1912.

There are many ways to proceed with ID and this is just one. Others may have different approaches. It can be a lot of fun to do the detective work. If the stamp was off cover with no dated cancel, you might expand the search and employ more tools, but the basics are the same. Perforation rate(s), Type and watermark. You may not need them all to find your answer. You can delve into coil stamps, booklet stamps etc. depending on what you have.
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Posted 12/09/2024   2:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you have a 2021 or before Scott US Specialized Catalog, the identifier section will help narrow down the possible Scott numbers to then look up to learn issue dates and EKUs (earliest known use). Only when you have a choice due to watermark or lack thereof and the pricing difference is huge then you have reason to look further, but know that most likely what you have is the less expensive one.
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Posted 12/09/2024   2:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
At that late date it really has to be 375


Wrong design Bart.
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Posted 12/09/2024   2:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Native to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Us stamp 375 is a "Two Cents" rather than a "2 cents 2". I don't think that's correct.
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Posted 12/09/2024   2:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Native -See my reply above Bart's (Revcollector) for your answer.
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Posted 12/09/2024   2:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
]406, 425, 423E or 423B.
You are right, it's the A140 design. I was too busy thinking about the stamps in front of me.
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Posted 12/09/2024   2:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Native to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not really to concerned with value, just momentously curious about which stamp it is lol. I was digging in my Scott specialized 2019 to try and narrow it down by issue years.
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Posted 12/09/2024   2:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Native to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@rog Ty very much! I was tender footing that path, I was using the stamp smarter tool to check what issues where available before 1914 and in perf 12. Y'all rock tysvm! Just to confirm, this is a type 1 correct?
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Posted 12/09/2024   2:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Type I = Correct
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