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Great Britain Postage Due Denominations Used In Ireland After Ireland's Independence

 
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Posted 12/17/2024   06:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Timm to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Which Great Britain postage due denominations were still being used in Ireland, after Ireland's independence, from 1914 through 1925 when Ireland started printing their own postage due stamps?
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Posted 12/17/2024   06:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ireland became independent in 1949. None were used after that.

As for the autonomous Irish Free State, as long as it had not issued its own postage dues (1925), the British ones remained in use.

Ireland did not become autonomous before 6 December 1922. From 1914 until that date, it was part of the UK, with a provisional government being in place in the months (16 January - 5 December 1922) running up to autonomy.
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Edited by NSK - 12/17/2024 06:55 am
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Posted 12/17/2024   08:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Timm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NSK: I just found the answers I was looking for at: https://stampssa.africa/wp-content/...-to-1925.pdf
You should check it out. It has a lot of information about that period.
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Posted 12/17/2024   08:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting, but the same information there.
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Posted 12/17/2024   12:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tiger Dude to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Regardless of the complicated issue of when Irish "independence" is, Ireland started issuing stamps in 1922 and used overprinted Great Britain (I guess we're stuck with that name for stamps) up to 1928, first issued in 1922. Its first printed Eire stamps were also in 1922. The different types of overprints results in a lot of varieties, and different cataloging companies have significantly different numbers as a result. Different albums also have different varieties included, my White Ace album leaves out Scott 19-22, June 1922 Harrison & Sons coils.

The first stamps were overprinted with "Provisional Government of Ireland" (in Irish), later changing to "Irish Free State."
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Posted 12/17/2024   1:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Ireland started issuing stamps in 1922 and used overprinted Great Britain (I guess we're stuck with that name for stamps) up to 1928


up to 1937, to be precise. The to pay labels of the United Kingdom, however, were never overprinted for use in Ireland.
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Stamps of "Eire" weren't issued in 1922, because that name wasn't in use - southern Ireland remained the Irish Free State until de Valera renamed it in 1937. One reason that De Valera resisted the temptation to declare a republic was because it would make Irish reunification less likely.
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Posted 12/17/2024   3:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This stamp issued in 1922 says something different.



The watermark was Se until the late 1930s.
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Edited by NSK - 12/17/2024 3:26 pm
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Posted 12/18/2024   11:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tiger Dude to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I should have said that they issued overprinted stamps through 1928. Clearly Ireland considered itself its own nation well before then.

The were probably just a little jumpy about declaring it, after that whole Cromwell thing. Other than the SE (Saorstát Éireann) watermark (meaning Irish Free State) stamps were not really a good clue as to its status as an independent nation.
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Cromwell was a rather distant memory. After the Easter Rising of 1916, a war of independence was fought between the Irish Republican Army and the British army and auxilaries (the "Black and Tans") between 1919 and 1921. During this period, the Irish maintained their own provisional government. Agreement was reached between the British government and Sinn Fein at the end of 1921, which led to partition and Dominion status for the south. This was followed by civil war between those who supported the new Free State (the Fine Gael party which had split from Sinn Fein) and its army and those who opposed it (the rest of Sinn Fein and the rest of the IRA). In due course, de Valera led a further breakaway from Sinn Fein when he established Fianna Fail.
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Posted 12/18/2024   12:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I should have said that they issued overprinted stamps through 1928.


1935
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