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Fedex's Note On US Regulatory Changes Effective Mar 4 Regarding China, Hong Kong, Canada, Mexico

 
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Posted 03/04/2025   10:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Prexie3c to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I received the following from FedEx:


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An additional 10% tariff shall be imposed on products with country of origin from mainland China and Hong Kong (above $800 in customs value) from March 4, 2025 (US Eastern time); unless they are eligible for de minimis treatment. This makes the total additional tariff applicable to products with country of origin from mainland China and Hong Kong 20% on top of the existing duties and taxes before February 1, 2025.

Additionally, 25% additional tariff is imposed to the products with country of origin from Canada and Mexico, as well as a 10% tariff on Canada oil. The duty-free de minimis treatment for products with country of origin from mainland China, Hong Kong SAR China, Canada, and Mexico remains in place temporarily until "adequate systems are in place to fully and expeditiously process and collect tariff revenue,". Therefore, we strongly recommend customers who ship products with country of origin from mainland China, Hong Kong SAR China, Canada, and Mexico to provide the 10-digit H.S. code and the Manufacturer Identification Code (MID) for the eligible shipments.


Any idea how this affects us stampers? Does this mean buying north from Canadian auction houses (such as R. Maresch & Son, Garden City) will now be more expensive?
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Posted 03/04/2025   10:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add No1philatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You bet it will. No more Rasdale shopping for me, as I cant afford it.
As a Canadian I purchased Palo products just at last moment last week and got them in the mail on Feb. 28th. Bad enough my dollar only purchased .675 cents worth of a US dollar that day, + credit card exchange, but I will have to pay 15% HST on top of Cdn value + $10. handling fee for Canada Post to collect it. The 25% tarriff applied to many items, including printed matter, as of today, but if an item was proven to be in transport to its destination in Canada, before it hits customs today, the 25% tarriff will not apply. And in Canada we have a $20 de-minimus on items sent through mail and $40 de- minimus sent by courier. Go figure?
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Posted 03/04/2025   11:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gvol21 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What a mess. Nothing like slapping our best friends - for what, exactly? Sad!
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Posted 03/05/2025   12:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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What a mess. Nothing like slapping our best friends - for what, exactly? Sad!


Maybe because our friends were letting people including terrorists and criminals as well as fentanyl cross the border and now they are paying attention? Could be. Just saying.





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Posted 03/05/2025   12:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdail to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rogdcam drank the Kool-aid, I see. The answer has nothing to do with fentanyl or "terrorists" in Canada. The only terrorist is in the White House.
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Posted 03/05/2025   08:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gvol21 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a tough break for dealers and auction houses on both sides of the border. I do wonder how this impacts dealers bringing stock to the US to sell at shows - maybe that's still untouched?


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Maybe because our friends were letting people including terrorists and criminals as well as fentanyl cross the border and now they are paying attention? Could be. Just saying.


Whew, yes - the complete lawlessness in Canada and the thousands of terrorists and criminals pouring across the border every day is indeed a great reason to shoot the auto industry in the head.

And causing energy prices here in New England (and food prices many other places, too) to increase significantly sounds great given that US CBP data showing that... 0.2% of fentanyl seizures happen at the Canadian border.

We'll find out in a few more months if ticking off our best friend was worth the economic pain to both countries. Guess we're all "paying attention" now!
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Posted 03/05/2025   09:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add usinbritain to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As one of those dealers abroad bringing material in for US shows (for the past 25 years) I have to fill out a US Customs declaration each time but as philatelic material (commodity code 9704.00.0000) is free of duty Stateside, I've never had to pay duty and as long as the foreign seller uses the correct commodity code, via FedEx or mail, on the Customs Declaration imports should be duty free:
https://hts.usitc.gov/search?query=9704.00.0000 and I don't believe that new tariffs on Canada, etc will change this status.

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Posted 03/05/2025   10:31 am  Show Profile Check gmot's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add gmot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That most idiotic decision ever in a long line of idiotic decisions by this administration. Far more illegal drugs and guns flow north from the US to Canada than the reverse, and have for decades.

Politics aside, usinbritain is generally correct. I'm a Canadian seller with many US customers - first, the $800 de minimis is still in effect. So for the US customers buying stamps on Hipstamp, ebay, etc no duty will be assessed unless the purchase is over that threshold. Second - it is based on "product origin" - so unless you are selling products of Canada (or Mexico), then the tariffs do not apply. This is the guidance received from ebay for Canadian sellers.
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Posted 03/05/2025   10:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Usinbritain and gmot - that is how the tariff system worked before Trump's executive order. When I looked at the order a month ago it called for the list of applicable HST categories to be developed and called for elimination of the de minimis exemption. So philatelic material may be subject to the new tariffs - or maybe not. Like most of the EO's being issued it is unclear.
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Posted 03/05/2025   11:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GMC89 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Maybe because our friends were letting people including terrorists and criminals as well as fentanyl cross the border and now they are paying attention? Could be. Just saying.



Daniel Patrick Moyniham famously said during floor debate at the US Senate,"We're all entitled to our own opinions,We are not entitled to our own facts".
Your statement are talking points, not facts. 2023 last year published 32#s of fentanyl was seized at the US Canadian border. 10.8 #s were seized going into Canada. I think that's a rounding error in drugs seized period. The 9/11 terrorist all but one came from Saudi Arabia,not are neighbors.Dept. of Agriculture estimates 60-80% of all slaughterhouse workers in the US are illegal.
Protecting our border is our responsibility, not our neighbors. Canada and the US and Mexico all will probably slip into recession over these" stupid" tariffs. Not an original thought, Mark Zandi, Moody analytics quoting a survey of economists.
I think stamps at auction will decrease in price as the economy deals with higher prices in commodities, think cars, food etc.. But we will have to wait to see. I'm glad your optimistic as you stated in earlier post.
cheers mark



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