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Sg99 -10d Red-Brown Plate 1. ?

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Posted 07/13/2025   04:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Pshann to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi all
Not sure here!
Would appreciate any help.
Thanks
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Posted 07/13/2025   04:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Why not SG112? Did you check the watermark?

SG99 is unlikely. The fast majority of the stamps that have been found were used in Constantinople.
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Posted 07/13/2025   04:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry no
plate 1
Will check wmk
Can you advise what I should look for?
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Posted 07/13/2025   04:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NSK
Your right
Spray of rose - wmk
Thanks for your help
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Posted 07/13/2025   04:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you are hoping for the jackpot (SG99) small flower symbols in four corners (of the printed area), being realistic (SG112), a large flower (rose) in the centre of the stamp.

Edit: Spray of Rose, i.e. SG112.
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Edited by NSK - 07/13/2025 04:52 am
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Posted 07/13/2025   04:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately all flower rose in centre
Appreciate the clarification
Learnt something
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Posted 07/13/2025   05:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
SG tends to group listings into series. The "Emblems" watermark was in use before the "Spray of Rose." However, in this case, there was a stamp issued when "Spray of Rose" was current and printed on remaining stock of "Emblems" paper.

It is a nice trap set by the editor of the Concise Catalogue. Going through the Concise Catalogue, the first you will find is the variety. Specialised lists it after SG112. When it also has the first plate number, it is tempting to think it must be the original stamp.
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Posted 07/13/2025   05:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NSK
Maybe found a 112 inverted wmk thanks to you
Appreciate your help

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Posted 07/13/2025   05:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It does look like an inverted watermark.
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Posted 07/13/2025   05:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Agree
Would have completely missed it without your advice
Much appreciated
I'll file it away
Thankyou
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Posted 07/13/2025   05:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was also surprised to see that the applied postmark bars are actually letters
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Posted 07/13/2025   06:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see what you mean. That is an optical illusion.
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Posted 07/13/2025   06:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That looks like the letter "A" to me

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Posted 07/13/2025   07:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I, too, see an A. I see a lot more letters. Yet, these were solid bars. They have worn down with use. The brain tries to find patterns it knows, even when they are not there.
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Posted 07/13/2025   07:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok
Thank you
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Posted 07/13/2025   1:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That watermark is unquestionably inverted, and a very nice, clear example.

SG 99, 113 and 114 ought all to be listed as SG 112a, 112b etc, but it seems that catalogue numbers allocated a hundred or more years ago are sacrosanct.

It's interesting that both the stamps you illustrate have 506 (Margate) cancellations. If you acquired them together, perhaps the original letters had the same sender and recipient.

When you acquire a Plate 2, let us know!
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