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Bermuda Queen Victoria 2d Identification Question

 
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Posted 07/23/2025   9:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add NicholasC to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Sorry for the not so clear image, but it should do for my question. This stamp is supposed to be Scott #20, but it is perf 11 instead of 14 and there is no obvious watermark. If there is, it is shifted way off center and only a fraction can be seen. What am I missing?

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Posted 07/23/2025   9:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add paddle_more to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Did you count those perfs with your sense of smell? I will look at my SG catalogue when I get home from work in the next 30 minutes...
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Posted 07/23/2025   9:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It sure looks to me like it's closer to perf 11 than perf 14... Postal forgery maybe?
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Posted 07/23/2025   10:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NicholasC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Absolutely perf 11 (or close enough). All 4 sides.

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Posted 07/23/2025   11:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are lots of variations from the originals. The mouth is wrong; the crown is wrong. But the cancel absolutely confirms that it's a forgery.

My 2d.
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Posted 07/24/2025   12:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NicholasC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks @cjd. Makes sense to me. Is it strange that this came from a retired APS circuit book? I would have expected someone to have identified it as such.

Update: I found a matching picture here:

https://stampforgeries.com/forged-s...-of-bermuda/
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Edited by NicholasC - 07/24/2025 12:21 am
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Posted 07/24/2025   11:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Never expect too much from any seller. APS lots included. APS is not doing any actual checking. Are they checking that Sc235-240 actually includes six stamps? Maybe. Maybe not.

No offense to APS, but it is no (little?) better than ebay's review and protection; i.e., none.
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Posted 07/28/2025   7:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danko to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Especially true for HipStamp. APS store on HipStamp is just a bunch of random sellers whose only connection to APS is that they pay a portion of their sales to them, like a mob boss.

Just checked their negative reviews on HipStamp and in the past 12 month they received 127 negative reviews and 160 neutral. Out of the top 5 stores the runner up has only 23 negative reviews, with other three only having a few. This speaks volumes about how bad APS is actually is.
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Edited by danko - 07/28/2025 7:49 pm
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