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Posted 09/18/2016   07:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jjarmstrong47 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Aha! I reckon this is it here.



You can get closer by holding your control key down and scrolling the wheel or hitting the "+" key.

edit: Then again, that area looks different on the red stamp and surely they are the same engraving. I guess it's probably too late to ask him.
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Posted 09/18/2016   08:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AKPhilately to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's great! I had since read that the Ns were only found on the 1899 Liberty definitives and on some of the 1910 Deposition Centenary stamps, but you've obviously found many more. Nice one!

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Posted 09/19/2016   2:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AKPhilately to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm adding Cameroun to my database at the moment, now that I've finally found some old catalogues detailing the engravers for 'Africa since independence' and tonight I came across this particular stamp, of which it is said that it was engraved by a certain person called Velly.



Never came across that name before so I'm wondering if it's correct. I don't have this stamp but if anyone does, could you please check the name of the engraver on the design? And/or perhaps post a hi res image of it?

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Posted 09/19/2016   4:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jorgesurcl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Adrian,
I'm almost sure that the 2 names in that stamp (Cameroun) are :

HALEY (Claude Haley 1923-1988, the engraver)
HANNIQUET (Louis-Norbert Hanniquet 1910-1980, the designer)
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Posted 09/19/2016   7:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jorgesurcl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Adrian...you are right!

Is Jean-Pierre Velly

http://www.velly.org/29_Eglise_Cameroun.html#2
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Posted 09/20/2016   03:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AKPhilately to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's a great find, jorgesurcl! Great to have a new name added to the database and a whole new engravers website to explore. I only wonder why they describe the engraving as unpublished. Can't see any obvious differences between their illustration and the actual stanmp. Something to look into!
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Posted 09/20/2016   07:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jjarmstrong47 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with you Adrian, I haven't come across Velly before either. On that sort of subject, I recently bought a cinderella sheet because it has an engraver I hadn't heard of before and have not been able to trace since I got the sheet.



This was produced in Paris in 1943 as part of the Aid For Intellectuals and the list of engravers is a French Who's Who of the time. All the usual suspects are there but there is one other name, Dewever, that I don't know.

In my research I found that it is a common Dutch name but usually as two words, De Wever and it is the equivalent of the English, Weaver and the German, Webber.

Also, the Dufresne is Ch. P. not the Marion Dufresne I've seen before. Could it be a relation?

I've seen the sheet advertised in red as well and I am getting to like it more ond more as I look deeper into it. Anyway, here are each of the "stamps" individually.







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Some of the designer names are new to me as well but I haven't looked hard at them yet.
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Posted 09/20/2016   08:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AKPhilately to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, nice. These were printed in four colours (blue, brown, green and red) and there are three different sheets (named Paris 1942, 1943 and 1944, even though they were printed in 1941, 1942 and 1943 respectively!). I don't know Dewever either and I think on one of those sheets there is another name not known as a stamp engraver. Could be they were banknote engavers maybe? Dufresne the stamp engraver is Charles Paul. Don't think there was a Marion Dufresne, at least not as an engraver. I have an article somewhere on these sheets. I'll try and find it and reread it to see if it gives any info on the engravers. Don't remember it does though.
I have some of those labels on my site as well, if you want to see more.
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Posted 09/20/2016   6:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jjarmstrong47 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Adrian, you've helped me correct another silly mistake. I have two Dufresnes in my database now I look properly, Charles-Paul and Marion. I can see what I have done. I was looking at the FSAT stamps at the Marion Dufresne, which is the supply ship, and somehow, I've added that name to my Excel list of Christian names. From then on, I've used that. This senility is very annoying at times.
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Posted 09/21/2016   03:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AKPhilately to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Charming as well, though, so don't worry about it.

I just got an email from Taiwan Post. On the 28th of this month they'll be issuing a set of three stamps portraying three important thinkers and educationalists.



The stamps are printed in recess and hand-engraved by Lien-tsai Huang, Yu-ling Chen and Mei-ling Chou. Whenever I see these names I'm always reminded of the initials they hid in the Taiwan owl stamps of 2012 and thereabouts. Maybe they've done it again this time?
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Posted 09/22/2016   09:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jorgesurcl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Peru - 1958

Peruvian Exhibition in Paris
Printed by Institut de Gravure - Paris

Engraved by Roger Fenneteaux (1913-2000)

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Posted 09/22/2016   3:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jorgesurcl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Spain - 1947

Manuel de Falla (Composer)
Ignacio Zuloaga (Painter)

Printed by Fŕbrica Nacional de Moneda y Timbre (FNMT)

Engraved by Carlos Velamazán (1901 - ?)



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Posted 09/22/2016   3:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AKPhilately to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I presume that Carlos Velamazán is the same as Carlos Velamazán Perez who engraved the 50c and 3p of the 1964 Spanish navy set?
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