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Posted 10/30/2017   2:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Sometimes, when an engraver works for two countries they might use both forms of their name. Karl Freidrich preferred to use Karel, the Czech version of his name and moved to Holland during ww2, apparently to avoid working for the nazis.


First of all I believe it is Karl Friedrich not
Freidrich. I never heard of a Freidrich in German and
no such engraver is in any database.

Did you perhaps mean Karl Friedrich Wilhelm Seizinger ?
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Posted 10/30/2017   5:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jjarmstrong47 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hah! I plead senility! I made that mistake a couple of times on the database and had to correct it. Thanks Lithograving. Someone has to keep me honest.
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Posted 10/30/2017   7:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes jjarmstrong47 I'm getting the same way.
I go down the basement to get something and
when I get there I can't remember what I'm
supposed to get.

Karl Friedrich Wilhelm Seizinger was born in Germany in 1889,
served in WWI in the German army,couldn't find work
in post war Germany but finally got a job as banknote engraver with the Finnish National Bank.
From 1924 till 1938 he worked as an engraver in Czechoslovakia,
left before the German occupation to work for the Yugoslavian postal office and then for the newly independent state of Croatia.
It was only after the war that he moved to the Netherlands
and got a job with Johan Enschede en Zonen in 1948.

Check out his story on The Stamp Gallery of Czech and Slovak Graphic Art

http://www.batz-hausen.de/seiz_e3.htm

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Posted 10/30/2017   8:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jjarmstrong47 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, you are right. It shows how much of the information flooding the internet is incorrect. I read the reference to Holland in an article about his time as a student of Max Svabinsky who helped him to improve his portrait work. Darned if I can find that now but the Czech reference and Wikipedia (in German) seem to have it correct.

We had a stamp exhibition here in Australia recently and one of the exhibits was pen and ink drawings by Seizinger, particularly the essays for the Czech airmails. I was green with envy for weeks after that.
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Posted 11/03/2017   11:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Johan Buvelot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A number of really nice engraved French stamps on a Philatelistic cover from the 1930's.


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Posted 11/06/2017   8:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've always liked the U.S. great American set. Not sure if the designer is also the engraver.

1988, Designer Jack Rosenthal


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Posted 11/06/2017   8:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jjarmstrong47 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, Stalzer, they are a great series. The Arago site has this to say about the Cody stamp.

"Central to the stamp design is a classic engraved profile of Cody, adapted by Jack Rosenthal from an illustration once used on a dining car menu for a special train from Denver to Cody." it says elsewhere that the illustration was an engraving.

So it is an engraving of an engraving. I have the engravers of the stamp listed as Joseph S. Creamer and Michael J. Ryan but I can't see those names on the Arago listing. I probably got the information here somewhere.
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Posted 11/07/2017   08:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AKPhilately to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The ATG (Art du Timbre Gravé) has just announced that the French engraver Claude Andréotto passed away on 29 October 2017. Born in 1949, Andréotto became known for his many stamps for the TAAF, depicting its wildlife. Here is probably one of his latest works (a pre-release press image), a miniature sheet for a 2018 TAAF issue.



Andréotto's final French stamp is probably this one, issued in January of this year.

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Posted 11/07/2017   10:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From another member...


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i want to ask Mr AKPhilately...

Hello, I saw your depots for the column "collecting by engraver".
I wanted to know the model of your scanner and its settings.

I have a canon lide 25 I rule with 1200 dpi and yet my results are much less beautiful.

please help me thank you !

lionel level of belgium

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Posted 11/07/2017   7:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jjarmstrong47 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Claude Andreotto was much too young to be taken from us yet. Many of us are older than that!

We have not only lost another engraver, but in an age when many "engraved" stamps are only highlights added to a photo or simple line drawings that almost resemble cartoons, his work hearkened back to the classic engravers of the past with beautifully detailed images.

The two examples shown by AKPhilately are a testament to the quality of his work.
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Posted 11/07/2017   9:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
M.R. Baldwin is a name not often compared to some of the more notable engravers but his work speaks for itself.

He was the engraver for 5 of the Omaha (Trans-Mississippi) issue including the iconic Western Cattle in a storm.

10¢ Hardships of emigration





8¢ Troops guarding train





He is also the engraver for the center / Vignette of the 24¢ Jenny



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Posted 11/07/2017   9:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jjarmstrong47 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Stallzer. I didn't have the engraver listed for those so now I can fill a few more gaps.
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Question on Buffalo Bill Cody stamp re engraver. Info from USPS Souvenir sheet. cNA

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Posted 11/11/2017   06:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AKPhilately to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
51studebaker/lionel level: my scanner/copier/printer is a Hewlett Packard HP Deskjet F2480, so a very basic machine. I scan stamps at 1200 ppi without any advanced settings. Just to clarify: the two last images are not scans made by me!

Stallzer: Gene Hessler has R. Ponickau down as the engraver of the 8c vignette you're showing. His information does include five stamps by Baldwin, like you said, but these are the 2c, 5c, 10c, $1 and $2. Do you know of any evidence that might link the 8c to Baldwin rather than Ponickau? Such as a signed proof or archive info?
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Posted 11/11/2017   8:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jjarmstrong47 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Does Hessler list the engravers for all of this set? This is a set where Arago has no details at all despite having a good array of the stamps. Arago also has an interesting item about this stamp.



"This image that is commonly called 'Farming in the West' shows sixty-one horses and their respective drivers. Evan Nybakken, the driver in the foreground with his left hand up as if to say hello, was actually grabbing his hat so that it would not blow away. When he died in 1934, his obituary cited the stamp as his major claim to fame."
https://arago.si.edu/category_2028275.html

The "horses" in the foreground look a bit like mules to me which were often used for the heavier tasks.
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