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1841 Qv 2-D Black On Cover

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Posted 05/13/2026   6:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



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Posted 05/13/2026   7:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's an elaborate fake.

There's no such thing as a 2d black.
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Posted 05/14/2026   06:47 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's elaborate, but also oddly lazy. I can understand the need for a missive to France to account for the 2d use, but putting the label on a random French stampless cover seems indolent.
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Posted 05/14/2026   10:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone for your comments, as I suspected it was too good to be true. Considering the postal from the UK to France in 1841 was 1s, along with all the other red flags. What is surprising to me is that SB's NY came back with an estimate $3-5K. Happily I didn't pay very much for it.
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Posted 05/14/2026   11:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The lettering is crude, especially the wobbly W in "TWO" and sans-serif N in "PENCE", and there are heavy lines on the face and neck. I expect closer magnification would reveal even more defects, and that the printing process is lithography.

The fake Maltese cross is much better work than the fake stamp!
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Posted 05/20/2026   10:44 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Rogdcam
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Posted 05/21/2026   12:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am flabbergasted that Sotheby's gave that estimate.

There are so many questions to be answered about the item. Even from a picture that shows too little detail of the stamp arise many questions.

Did they just look at a picture, or did they hold the item in hand?
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Posted 05/21/2026   06:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Flightle_Bee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Despite Sotheby's invitation to consign one's rare stamps to them, they don't have a stamp department. So maybe the enquiry was passed on to their resident incunabulist.
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