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1923 Black Harding 2 Cent #613 ??? Please Help ID This Stamp

 
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Posted 11/17/2016   05:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Frederick messner to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I don't know enough about stamps to identify this. Can anybody tell me if this has a possibility of being a #613??

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Posted 11/17/2016   05:35 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is a Flat Plate #610.

The rare #613 rotary sheet waste stamps is among the most misidentified U.S. stamps.



As can be seen in the above illustration, the Harding rotary stamps do not have the sharp clean look of the flat plate printings.

Rotary stamps can be identified by the size of the stamp. Rotary coil stamps are wider and rotary sheet stamps are taller than their flat plate counterparts. Although the rotary coil waste stamps are somewhat scarce, it is the rotary sheet stamps that are really rare. The exceptionally rare perf 11 rotary stamps can be distinguished by the fact that the design measures at least 22 mm tall, whereas the common flat plate stamp rarely measures more than 22 mm tall.

It is possible the reason for misidentification of this stamp is the fact that the measurements noted above are very tiny, a fraction of a millimeter or two here or there and a common stamp becomes a rare one. Compound this with the fact that no two people use a ruler identically, and you have a recipe for disaster. That is why the template method can not be overemphasized.

You can learn more about the template method of measuring, by either searching this forum or using the Stamp Smarter website (click on link below).
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The website Don meant to show is http://stampsmarter.com .

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Posted 11/17/2016   08:19 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Peter, I should have been clearer (the link is the blue Stamp Smarter banner in post).
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A few more helpful links. Interesting, that some of the collectors/experts provide with measurements 19.25 / 22.5mm or say that the Scott 613 should be longer than 22.25mm. As for example, in the first article below - all the Scott 610-611 are listed as 19.25 / 22.25mm, and only Scott 612-613 19.25 / 22.5mm (so, only the perforation 10 or 11 makes dfference between them):

http://www.shaulisstamps.com/tips/B...Hardings.htm

http://www.linns.com/news/us-stamps...arding-.html

https://siegelauctions.com/enc/rotary.htm

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