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Special Handling Block Qe1 - Question On Straight Edges

 
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Posted 10/21/2010   1:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wt1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I happen to like these Special Handling Stamps because of their ornate designs, very similar to what you'd find on U.S. currency:



While I know this particular block isn't worth all that much, even though it is MNH, I have a question about its straight edges.

It looks to me as though the straight edges are right out of the UR corner of a pane of these stamps. Am I right? I'm only questioning it because I am used to seeing most U.S. stamps having a narrow perforated selvage on all sides and not the straight edges shown.

Just wondering if this is considered typical for this issue?
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Posted 10/21/2010   2:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it is. Stamps from the straight-edge border are considered less desireable.
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Thanks. It's what I thought, I just wanted to make certain. Less desired or not, I still like the way you can easily tell where it came from within the pane of stamps.

I suppose this example is a typical example of why straight edges are found on so many of the commemoratives and regular issues of the early 20th century.
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True enough. I like your margin block of 4 and I like that you can indeed tell what part of the sheet it came from. My temptation would be to get a plate block of them.
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Posted 10/21/2010   3:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wt1..I am not sure why some people think straight edges are less desirable. I guess it's a matter of opinion.
Stamps are stamps. I do like your margin block.
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I'm only questioning it because I am used to seeing most U.S. stamps having a narrow perforated selvage on all sides and not the straight edges shown.


WT1,

Here is a "margin block of four with plate number" (edited to correct terminology) of the QE1 showing the selvage that you were referring to.

I haven't confirmed it but the difference between your block and mine may be associated with the wet and dry printing methods used on the first three stamps of this issue.

Steve

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I never much thought about it, but you maybe right about the wet v. dry printings, although there isn't much difference in value between them.

Although not a plate block, I do have this MNH margin block of the 20 cent variety (QE3) and IMO it shows a distinctly yellow green color, much lighter than that of the 10 cent variety.



BTW, aren't plate blocks of this issue supposed to be collected in blocks of 6?
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It is my experience that dry-printed stamps are lighter in color and inking than wet-printed stamps which seem to have darker and stronger colors.
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[quote]BTW, aren't plate blocks of this issue supposed to be collected in blocks of 6?[/quote}

Yes, that is correct. Here is the BIG but. Up until the mid 1970's all P.B.'s were 4. Then Someone decided that was not sufficient. The following year Scott changed all that were not in the corner to 6. I vividly remember looking up my Plate Blocks and being very upset that they were no longer considered P.B.'s.
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Up until the mid 1970's all P.B.'s were 4. Then Someone decided that was not sufficient. The following year Scott changed all that were not in the corner to 6.


Very interesting. I never knew about this change in the 1970's. I do know that there are some modern issues of the 70's and 80's that had to be collected in multiples as plate number strips, claiming that the printing types demanded multiple plate numbers, and then all of a sudden it seemed that most of the newer issues went back to plate blocks of 4 a few years later.

I wonder who made the change from a PB of 4 to 6 on the earlier issues? Was is only based on the Scott catalog? Could there have been an ulterior motive behind it (i.e. an attempt to devalue PB's or 4 that were already in collector's hands)? It just seems to me there would have been a big uproar in the stamp collecting community when that happened.

Come to think of it, a similar situation exists with plate number coils and line pairs. I used to collect some and was always taught to collect line pairs by 2 ... then plate numbers appeared on the newer stamps and I started collecting them in strips of 3 with the center stamp having the plate number, then all of a sudden it went to strips of 5.
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I do have this MNH margin block of the 20 cent variety (QE3) and IMO it shows a distinctly yellow green color, much lighter than that of the 10 cent variety.


Here is another QE3 block of 4 that to me appears much darker than either of the images you posted.

Again, the wet vs. dry may be at play here. The Wet and Dry Printings explanation in my 1983 Scott US Stamp Catalog indicates that the "dry" printings show whiter paper, a higher sheen on the surface, feel thicker and stiffer, and the designs stand out more clearly than on the "wet" printings.

On that basis, I believe this block was dry printed.

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Posted 10/27/2010   2:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The dark green are the wet printing, the lighter yellowish green are the later dry printings.
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