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Venezuela Revenue?

 
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Posted 10/31/2010   8:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wt1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I can't seem to find a listing for this issue in a general catalog, there is however, a note that some revenue stamps were used for regular postage in the late 1940's. If this is one of them, I'm not sure if the cancel represents postal use or revenue use.



Any ideas?
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Posted 10/31/2010   9:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My guess yours is a fiscal cancellation.(june 4th 1949)

Here is a Telegraph opt for postage.

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Posted 10/31/2010   10:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I vote "fiscal." Looks like a revenue cancel to me.
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Posted 11/01/2010   05:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jbcev80 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi

Definitely a revenue. a footnote after Scott 400 is as follows:

In 1947 a decree authorized the use of 5c and 10c revenue stamps of the above type [like the design shown here] for franking correspondence. Other denominations were also used unofficially.

This could possibly be an unofficial use with a normal cancellation.

According to the 1980 Minkus Latin America Catalog:
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Issued 1947
Engraved by American Bank Note Co.
Perf 12
Pale blue security imprint E E you U VENEZUELA on face of paper
(cannot see if there is on picture shown)

R163 5c green 10 5
R164 10c yellow brown 15 8
R165 20c red brown 25 10
R166 40c green 55 20
R167 50c blue 40 10
R168 1b violet 75 50
R169 2b blue 2.00 1.00
R170 3b blue 2.50 1.00
R171 10b orange 6.00 4.00

prices in 1980 USD
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Interestingly the 1992 Blanco specialized Venezuela catalog has the above set listed for 1937-1948, along with other values of a different design. The above seemed to be listed in Yvert since Yvert numbers are listed in Blanco. Problem with the Blanco catalog is that there are no illustration ids, like other catalogs, so I am guessing it is the set cited.

Jerry B
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Posted 11/01/2010   05:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jbcev80 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi

Just noticed that the "U"'s in the country name were changed to you you. Huh?????
Jerry B
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Posted 11/01/2010   06:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I noticed that, I got your drift, but was
scratching my head why you used that format :)

I think that security printing is an example of "moire" ?
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Posted 11/01/2010   08:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jbcev80 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
G'Day Rodney,

If typed the name as it is on the stamp E.E.U.U.DE VENEZUELA it doesn't happen. However, for Colombia it will happen as there are some inscriptions that do not have dots.

I would not call the printed name on the face Moiré. Moiré is more of a geometric interference pattern. There is a set of Venezuela that has a geometric pattern printed on the face as a security measure. I would consider that pattern closer to Moiré.

Jerry B
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Posted 11/01/2010   12:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some of the various security measures are shown in this previous thread:

https://goscf.com/t/7397

This thread includes Venezuelas on Winchester security paper, and British Honduras' moire on KGV.

C.
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