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Posted 11/07/2010   4:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stampvirgin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I couldn't find these int he SG I have or the Scott.
Can anyone ID these and let me know any value?


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Posted 11/07/2010   4:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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These won't be listed in either SG or Scott. The H&G catalogue is about the only place I can think of that would list them, though there is probably another specialist catalogue or two, too. That means completed auctions will be your best bet for guessing at values.
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Posted 11/07/2010   5:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
any idea on an Identification for them?
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Posted 11/07/2010   5:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have cut squares, mostly...not many entires, so I can't be very specific with i.d.s. I'll take a look and see if I can make any educated guesses.
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Posted 11/07/2010   5:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a note that says B22 on something similar to your third or fourth item, but I cannot say what the entire envelope would have looked like. If it is a starting point, then great.

I believe any H&G numbering for your envelopes should have a "B" prefix.
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Posted 11/09/2010   09:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
bump..any more information on these? IF I had a catalog # form somewhere I could search the web.
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Posted 11/09/2010   10:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

The second cover down has a triangular strike.

FS L = Foreign Section London

A very common strike to appropriate a discounted
franking for printed matter overseas.
They were so often used, I have never seen these listed
in any catalogue as yet.
(Triangulars only, possibly from 1940 onwards)
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Posted 11/09/2010   10:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

The same goes for the top strike,
both are late model strikes, and well outside the catalogue
I have.

As a collector of "London postmarks on printed matter"
they would be important to me, but in the general market
I doubt if you would get more than a buck a cover.

This conundrum falls into a lot of specialised areas, registration labels, etiquettes and the like.

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Posted 11/09/2010   10:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would be happy with a buck a cover.
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Posted 11/09/2010   10:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am surprised that the SG catalog doesn't list stamped envelopes..
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Posted 11/09/2010   10:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Done! (sound of falling hammer)
Thank you kindly.

Now the third cover down, lets take a little
stroll into history.

Oundle, Northhamptonshire
There has been a settlement there since the Iron age.
It escaped the black death (why I dont know)

What an absolutely gorgeous little village.
(A village only an Englishman could fall in love with)

This is where your cover was posted.



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Posted 11/09/2010   10:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
SV I'll take the 4 if you like.
If so please advise shipping.
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Posted 11/09/2010   11:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod,
Let me scan the rest so you can pick your flavor. I have a bunch of different ones.
then you can say, I want #1,#2, etc..
I will scan them tonight.
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Posted 11/09/2010   11:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Roger that Blue leader,
I am off on a reconnoitre to the country tomorrow,
and will not return to base for two days.
I'll diarise to check this thread then.
Ta.
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Posted 11/09/2010   11:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
okay

A star wars reference to boot. Episode 4 I believe, was when we first heard that statement.
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Edited by stampvirgin - 11/09/2010 11:37 am
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Posted 11/09/2010   12:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ryan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I am surprised that the SG catalog doesn't list stamped envelopes..

I suppose it's a bit of a stretch to hope that the SG GB Concise catalogue would show postal stationary, but I would have thought the SG specialized editions would list them. Not so. Nor does Stoneham.

Michel prints catalogues for postal stationary, so at least I can look for listings for them, but I don't know if you'll get much use out of searching for Michel numbers.

The first cover with a 2-1/2d value on it is not listed in Michel, but is stated to be private stationary. This means the firm provided the postal authority with the envelopes and the appropriate vignette was then printed on them. In fact, there are no 2-1/2d KGV envelopes other than private ones. I don't know if that's any indication of rarity, since no prices are shown.

The second cover must also be private stationary. 1/2d green envelopes did exist as issued by the postal authority but yours doesn't look like it has the right proportions to be any of the listed sizes (136 mm x 79 mm, 222 mm x 98 mm, 218 mm x 136 mm, 152 mm x 89 mm).

The 1-1/2d covers are listed in three sizes. U22A was 120 mm x 93 mm (€1.50 used), U22B was 136 mm x 80 mm (€2.00 used), U27 was 152 mm x 89 mm (€2.50 used). Other sizes would presumably be private - again, it looks like some proportions are off.

Ryan
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