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Posted 11/24/2010   1:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stampvirgin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
anyone see a problem that I don't?

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Posted 11/24/2010   2:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Edwin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
are you finding all these on Wensy.com? you sure are doing a great job filling in your early collection, going great guns as my Gramps would say.

You inspired me to bid and win a Scott National Album covering all US types start thru 1987... so I blame you for the hundreds of questions over the next 6 months as I try to figure out this early USA mess you experts call stamps.. (man they are hard!)

I think I may have just stepped in too deep as I look into the scott specialty catalog
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Posted 11/24/2010   2:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
edwin, I am finding these on bidstart
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Posted 11/24/2010   3:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billw2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Umm... wait for one that's centered a lot better?
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Posted 11/24/2010   5:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
billw from what I have read, this stamp is notorious for bad centering. And honestly for 16.00, I don't think it's a bad deal. Not all of use can afford the quality of stamps you own.
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Posted 11/24/2010   5:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
SV, you are right, most of the 1861 Nationals have poorer centering. If there are no other faults then it is not a bad price. I think a good rule of thumb is 10-20% cat for poor centering and/or heavy cancels. From viewing your posts I believe you are a worldwide (or at least broad area) collector. The centering for early U.S. stamps may not be worth the additional cost. If you decide to speciallize in early U.S. down the road, you will probably be disapointed with a stamp like this. Billw or myself collect a smaller target and would find this condition objectionable.
Buy according to your budget and your collecting philosophy. You could buy several classics of this condition for the cost of one stellar copy.
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Posted 11/24/2010   5:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
russ,
thanks for the response. Actually I really am not a world wide collector. There are a few countries that I collect because I fancy them. I am just to poor to afford the stamps I want.. plus if I spend too much, my wife will chew my ear off.
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sv, I have been collecting for 50 years. Started WW and then when pre-1940 U.S. and now I am concentrating more on 1851-57 1 cent. Each change caused me to rethink what and how I bought. At this point the field is so small that quality is critical. I think this is a pretty normal collecting transition.
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Posted 11/25/2010   04:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billw2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
sv,

I can't afford a lot of what I want :)

Right now I have a few holes in my 1861s and 1869s. I *_REALLY_* want a nice used 90c 1861, since the ones I want on cover cost a lot. I figure a 90c that I LIKE (I own one that's F-VF, I don't like it) is going to cost me a pile of money. So I am saving up... It'll probably be a year or so before I have the funds ready to buy one. I have a "wantlist" of stamps.. among them is a $1 Trans-Mississippi. I'd rather wait and save up and buy nice ones.

OK, remember that 10c Orange Brown with the green cancel that I posted a pic of? My father bought that when he was in Law School in, I dunno, 1971 or 1972. At the time I think he paid $50-75 for it, which was a huge price for an Orange Brown back then. I was just offered $1,000 for it. It's NEVER going to be for sale while I'm breathing, but think about it. REALLY nice classic stamps have proven to be a good place to put your money, look at what great stuff brings at Siegels, compared to 10 years ago.

For what your budget allows if it were me, I would buy a lot less stuff buy buy nicer stuff. And there's a logic to it. Should you ever need to sell your stamps, you'll find that nice ones have gone up in value, and will bring a strong price. On top of that, they will be easy to sell. A REALLY nice #76 cost me about $125 10 years ago. I could sell it today for $200-250. During the same time, poorly centered ones were $10-15 and those are the kinds of items that, regardless of price, were not good selling items.

The point is, I watch your posts (WIth interest! :) and it looks to me like you're spending some money. I think that financially you would be better served and much safer by buying higher grade items. Look, you do the same stuff I do, you spend what seems like more than just funny money on your stamps, I do it with stamps and coins myself. I do not plan on ever selling my stuff, HOWEVER, none of us have a crystal ball. What if I get married and find out my wife needs $50,000 in medical care to save her life? I'd be on the phone with Heritage and Siegel so fast your head would spin.

That's why I harp on this... the sad facts are...

If you have a low quality collection, and you go to sell it, you'll find that dealers will largely evaluate it based on the high valued items. My friend the coin dealer just bought a collection of Barber Quarters. First coins he looked at were the 01-S, then the 13-S then the 96-S. Did he look real close at the 16-D? No.

Then, go and take a close look at what a collection of lower grade US actually brings at auctions where the dealers do their buying... these sorts of lots go for absolute peanuts.

Point is, being a bit choosier and taking things slower will end up saving you a lot of money in the long run. The only stamps that I can justify buying in poor shape are those where there's just no other option (Look at sale 1001 on Siegel's website for a bunch of great examples of this) but I would strongly suggest you save up and buy a NICE copy of that stamp. Budget $200-250 to do so. 10 years from now it will likely be worth $500 while the $16 stamp will be worth $20. Take $1,000 spent today on fillers and 10 years from now those will be worth $1,200 perhaps while 4 or 5 really nice stamps bought for $1,000 today will be worth maybe $2,000 or more. It's been proven, look at Auction results from 10-20 years ago and see how much bigger the premiums for high quality material have become in today's market.

Bill
And I STILL want a nice 90c :(
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