KGV Variety

KGV here is one for you.
Is this a common Variety?
Regards
Horamkhet

I look forward to hearing what KGV has to say. In the meantime. I'd like to observe that according to my SG catalogue if it's the 1914 issue (SG 21), Die II, it's worth well over three thousand pounds. If it's the 1914 issue, rusted cliche (whatever that is), it's worth five thousand pounds!

Hi Jimjamtwo
I hope you are correct.
I have no idea of the value of some of the stamps.
This is another interesting item from the family accumulation. It is amazing what is turning up in the tin of treasures.
Regards
Horamakhet

Unless it's the scan, there is definitely something odd about the 'P' in 'POSTAGE' in your stamp.

What's going on there?

Can you post a clearer scan, perhaps?

Yes this one is interesting!
The labor party push through Australia's first stamp. The map of Australia and kangaroo in early 1913. By the end of 1913 the liberal party was voted into power and one of the first things they did was to fix things up with King George 5th. They pushed through in dec 1913 a commemorative stamp of KGV. The first definitive KGV was printed in 1914 and these stamps are what I collect and talk about.
So your stamp is the 1913 commemorative KGV perf 11 and no watermark. Nothing to do with the stamps I collect but interesting. Happy stamping John

Hi Jimjamtwo

If you click on the centre of the scan it will enlarge it. Yes the paw of the Kangaroo is in the "p"
I have never seen a KGV stamp like this.
Horamakhet

Hi Horamkhet,

Even enlarged, the original scan is still grainy.
Thanks for sharing. I have never seen this stamp before (though given that I am a bit of a newbie that shouldn't surprise anyone).

Hi Horamkhet,
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Hi
I know it is a bit grainy still,, but is this photo any better.
You can really see the variety now.
Horamakhet

Great scan Horamkhet!
Do not know much about printing flaws in this KGV.
But the paw of roo and P of postage looks interesting.
If nobody has answered this one by tomorrow.
I will have a look for a books that might help. John

The picture is just bigger.
What resolution are you scanning at? That looks like 300dpi or less.
600dpi is really the minimum for detail.

This scan is about the same size in pixels but 3x the file size. How are you compressing the image to 100k?

With the KGV's there are more plate variety flaws than one can shake a stick at. If you email me I can point you in the right direction on where to find exactly what you are looking for, an Australian expert on these.

May I stick my neck out on this one?

If other collectors can find a smilar mark on the same stamp, then I am inclined to think that this is a 'constant' variety. The other possibility is a piece of foreign material landing on the plate and this created some of the markings until it was noticed and cleaned. (If un-noticed long enough, and several sheets were created before being cleaned, does this also qualify the marking as a 'constant' variety?)

I am not an authority on the Australian issue, there I cannot confirm my statements.

Chimo

Bujutsu

My ancient copy of Rosenblum's Stamps of the Commonwealth of Australia shows the kangaroo's foot as perfectly normal for the recess printed 1d. The rather small illustration in Gibbons confirms it.

Just a common or garden SG 17, I'm afraid. 2011 value in Gibbons £2.50 for mint.

Strange, I'd never spotted this stamp in the catalogue before, and like you at first assumed it must be a weird variety of the 1914 definitive.

In fact, it looks like even SG may not have noticed the difference at first, as the 1914 definitive is SG illustration 5a, ie an afterthought- SG illustration 3 is Horamkhet's stamp, 4 is the laughing kookaburra 6d issued at the same time, 5 is the new watermark for the 1914 defins, and 6 is the 1915 watermark. So to me it seems that they realised in 1915 that the stamp design had changed in 1914. Or is there an alternative explanation?

The stamp may be SG 17c pale rose red, cat val £7 (SG 17 is red).

My very ancient Lincoln catalogue from about 1915 has this stamp as "1 penny, carmine" and adds, tantalisingly, "there are three varieties of the above, differing in width of spacing between the Stamps,etc." but says nothing about these varieties.

Anyone know any more?

Here's a good lot of info about this stamp here:

http://predecimal.nf/pre/kgvrecess/the1d.htm

1.2 million of the December 1913 commemorative were printed.