Is This A Joint Line Pair ?

As the title states, is this a Joint line pair ?



Sorry about the image size, it's all I could get.

This is a line pair, yes.

Now that I look at the Scott Specialized it does refer to them as "Joint Line Pair", but that is definitely what you have there. High cat value too, especially if never hinged.

Very sweet, I just won the above pair, Mint, never hinged for $23.75 shipping included. I was hesitant at first until I saw the seller was a Coin dealer and listed no catalog value for them. I was banking on the fact that they did not know the difference and it had only generated 1 bid of $19.00.
My 2009 Scott specialized catalog lists a Joint line pair MNH @ $280.00. (scott #497)

I'd say you got a deal!

Thanks for the confirmation Smauggie. *Edit* it was actually $25.70 with Shipping added in, not the previous amount listed. Now all that remains is to actually receive them and hope the seller does not try a bait and switch.

Coil pairs seem to be my Achilles heel, my USA national is filling quite nicly up almost 90%+ after 1929-1987 where it ends right now and MNH to boot.
my blank spaces are usually Coil pairs, and Transportation Coils.

so CONGRADS on the great find I hope its perfect thats always fun.

My 2002 catalog lists #497 MNH LP at $250...as Smauggie said earlier, if the 2009 catalog has it at $280, that's a 12% overall increase. Interestingly, if the same LP is only mint (NOT NH), in 2002 the catalog value was only $140; the 2010 price is $130 (for a decline of 7.1% in those 8 years).

Just goes to show how condition is everything in valuing stamps.

Still, a great find for the price. If you paid $25.70 (with S&H) based on $280 catalog value, you paid about 9.2% of catalog value.

Hi to all
I am confused by the terminology used. I know nothing about the terminology of Philately. Now the Joint line pair are from coils or is that something different
Does this mean that all coil pairs and triplets and carry a premium or only some
I have a few coil pairs and triplets but they are all used, some still on the piece. Am I barking up the wrong tree.
Regards,

Horamakhet

Horamakhet,

Historically speaking US coils stamps are printed using a plate. This plate is orignally created as a flat plate, and then is placed in a drum, and forced to take a circular shape with the stamp design on the outside. This drum is then used to print stamps on a coil of paper.

The place where the ends of the plate meet creates a printed line. The plates also feature a plate number usually on the central stamp in the plate.

coil pairs with the line in between them are more desirable, as are strips of coil stamps where the middle stamp has the plate number (usually a strip of 5 coil stamps. Individual coil stamps with a plate number is often more desirable than a regular example of the stame stamp as well.

Hope that helps!

Yes, from Coils H,

from the SCF archives........

Hi smauggie, and rod222

Thank you for the information.

I will check to see if they have the line between

It is a long learning process for me, but all your information helps

Regards,
Horamakhet

I was just going to ask about Line pair vs Joint line pair. I love a answered question before I ask it!

Edwin

Now for the Million collar question, what is a guide line pair ?

This link has a pretty good glossary definition of all of these related terms:

http://glossary.usstamps.org/glossa...php?alpha=gi

As to the Guide Line Pair:

"Guide Line Pair - a pair of flat plate stamps with a segment of a guide line between them. This term is most commonly used in association with coil stamps."

Thank you for that link.

With the early Stickney rotary press the joint line on vertical coils occurs every 17 stamps and on horizontal coils it occurs every 15 stamps. The flat plate guideline occurs every 20 stamps and the paste-up also occurs every 20 stamps. The guideline pairs are highly collectable with the paste-up being largely ignored by Scott (not even listed) and collectors.