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Posted 01/07/2011   5:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add lucky to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi Everyone,
Riverside Calif. & San Bernardino Calif. are right next to each other. This cover shows two cancels with 3 days between the two. I don't understand why it is canceled twice. Could someone please explain to me why this happened?

Cover Front


Closeup of Postmark


Back of Cover


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Posted 01/07/2011   5:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperdude to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A meter cancel and a slogan cancel.
I wonder if the second cancel is a "receiving cancel" which normally appears on the back of a cover. I bet it was just an error by the local processing hub, which is more than likely in San Berdardino (on route 66). Other than that I have no idea. I am sure someone else with more knowledge than eye can figure it out.
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Edited by stamperdude - 01/07/2011 5:11 pm
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Posted 01/07/2011   5:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The red/pink imprint is not a cancellation; it is a Pitney Bowes Meter imprint. The date of mailing is what appears on that meter imprint. When received at the post office, the "postmark" (in black) represents the date and location from which it was processed onto the addressee.

(Typically, meters are not postmarked, but occasionally they go through the process, as do stamped envelopes.)

While there's nothing to prove this, the cover you posted appears to be a fund raising cover for the American Cancer Society. In many cases, the charity solicits volunteers to phone potential contributors and follows it up with a mailed reminder or contribution card, the envelope for which is oftentimes handwritten by the volunteer making the solicitation. The charity may even pre-meter some of the envelopes and then one of their volunteers simply addresses the piece (possibly even from their home) and mails it in a local mailbox or at a local post office. The only prohibition I am aware of is that the meter date and post office location must match the date and location from which the piece is mailed, but there have been instances where this hasn't been adhered to 100%, so some varieties do exist.
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Posted 01/07/2011   5:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The San Bernadino is a slogan machine cancel from a Pitney Bowles B400 cancelling machine. My database indicates that San Bernadino was not doing receiving cancels in 1982.
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Posted 01/07/2011   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
June 25 was a Friday, which makes me think that either the mailing was prepared on Friday but not mailed until Monday, or someone at the charity forgot to advance the date on Monday morning before metering the mail. In both cases, it could be handed over the counter for processing to get the new date.

I'm sure there are dozens more possibilities.
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Posted 01/07/2011   8:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bfranton to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm amused!
Not just by the length of time it took to go less than 10 miles but by the service in question in general.
I've multiple letters / postmarks from the late 1940's from San Fran to St Louis and back.
Admittedly, Air, but not special delivery, and it took less than 24 hours to be canceled in one place and delivered / and responded to by the other.
And we wonder what has gone wrong why?
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Posted 01/07/2011   10:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lucky to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all of the info everyone.
The contents inside stated that The American Cancer Society had recieved a gift "In memory of" my Granny.
Lucky
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