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I was talking to a couple of Chinese fellows yesterday at the stamp show...they are actively looking to buy China if they can find it..the dealers told them it sells as soon as it comes in....i asked them about the Scott catalog when it came to China...they said forget it, Scott is not realistic when it comes to the China market !

Well I dunno. I have a fairly good quality lot up on ebay - now being listed for the second time - no bids the first - though maybe I had too high a start bid.


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Hi Moonbird

They probably didn't sell the first time because they are not all Chinese stamps.

The first stamp - top row is from Japan, whole 2nd row is from Japan, 3rd and 4th stamp in 4th row also Japanese and all but the middle stamp in the bottom row are also Japanese. The rest are Chinese.

Hope this helps?

Chimo

Bujutsu

All China stamps are in high demand. Going by Stamps2Go statistics, in the last six months over 6,500 China stamps have been sold, and the current sale listing includes about 7,000 Chinese items. As a comparison, about 37,000 USA stamps have been sold in the same time period, with 170,000 items in the current USA listing. So Chinese stamps are selling at more than 4 times the rate of USA stamps.

All Chinese areas show high interest ... China, Republic of China (Taiwan), People's Republic of China, and the Chinese provinces. Most of the avid buyers are Chinese, and they seem to have lots of money to spend on high value items.

Stamps2go thats exactly what I was told by the Chinese gentlemen...however these fellows were looking to spend for collections or perhaps better single items...and I am sure whatever is purchased is going right back to China !

Chinese stamps sell very well indeed!

A lot of my Chinese stamps on ebay sell to buyers in China who I suspect are dealers looking to resell to the Chinese public, who, it seems, are paying small fortunes for many stamps, including even CTOs.

I'm probably going to have to stop shipping to China, though, because some Chinese buyers - for some reason, they're all in Shanghai - are in the habit of repeatedly claiming that their items have not arrived and starting Paypal cases against me (even when I've already supplied proof of postage). If you sell Chinese stamps on ebay, be wary of selling to buyers in China! Some are looking to get the stamps for free by falsely claiming they have not received their items and getting a refund via Paypal.

Yup, I have one case against me right now for $60. And I had two high bidders (both about $100) who decided not to pay at all. Of course I did not send the stamps, and ebay refunded the fee, but I could not leave negative feedback as buyers sellers are not allowed to do so.

Jimjam, email me and we can check the user ID's and see if any are the same.

I've got some more recent used China stamps. Maybe I should put some up for auction here?

Dave N.
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Well, well, well this has turned to be a great thread, as Jimjam and I have something in common - the same seller buyer in China claiming no reiceipt of stamps from both of us! More to follow...

The same buyer, you mean BeeSee!

Feel free to email either of us if you sell to China and would like to know who to watch out for.

Thanks for the correction JimJam - my brain was boiling.

Hi to all

There is a way around persons falsifying the record of not receiving the item.
In Australia you can send it and have it tracked all the way to the person at the end. Also you can ask for the item to be "Acknowledged Receipt" I know it cost a bit more, but that way they can not dispute that they never received it. However, ebay can be a right pain in the arse at times also.
Regards,
Horamakhet

I've never heard of 'Acknowledged Receipt' and post office workers have never mentioned this as an option to me.

How much more does it cost, H?

Thanks for bringing that up Horamkhet.

We have something like that in Canada too, called AR, or Advice of receipt.

However, the problem is that it can only be used on registered mail, parcel post, priority post or Express post. All these services to China are $15.00 or more.

It makes sense to use these services on expensive items, but on cheaper items under $75 most buyers do not want to pay it and "say" they will take the risk.

However, as has been said previously here, ebay always gives the buyer benefit of doubt, even if the lot description says "sent at your own risk unless sent by registered post". (100% feedback) transactions I have over 1000 on ebay since 1999 and never had a problem - until I sold some China stamps belonging to a family member.

An I now discover that one buyer who declined registration has claimed no receipt to myself and Jimjam, another member of this forum.

I know the ebay rules, and I was ready to bite the bullet and expected a ruling against me (still in progress), however, with Jimjam reporting his problem with the same buyer, hopefully ebay / Paypal will investigate properly.

BeeSee/Jimjamtwo...I have also been selling my older China but have been listing them on Delcampe. Right now, my main bidder there is someone I have dealt with in the past. In addition, you can leave negative feedback as a seller on Delcampe, unlike ebay and you can also modify the initial feedback if someone tries to file an inproper claim. Gives you the chance to warn other sellers. Plus, the fees are lower compared to ebay, giving you the option of listing low priced (by Scott value) items. Phil is correct, the China market for pre-1950 issues is hot and I am getting 2-5 times Scott value on some stuff. Feel free to email me if you have any questions.
Mike in NC / meostamps