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Posted 01/27/2011   12:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wt1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Found these backstamps on the back of a Airmail/Special Delivery FDC. Never noticed it before, but was wondering what the AMS and RMS designations meant.



Any info. will be appreciated. Thanks.
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Posted 01/27/2011   1:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
RMS is Railway Mail Service and I'm guessing AMS is Air Mail Service.
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Posted 01/27/2011   1:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. I thought RMS might be "Railway" too, but wondered how it applied to the Detroit Air Field.
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Posted 01/27/2011   1:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You might have to check a historical map for that era, but maybe the rail line went by or connected with the air field. What's the origin and destination of the cover? If you have a scan of the front, I think we can put this puzzle together.
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Posted 01/27/2011   5:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperdude to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
battlestamps you are correct about "RMS" and "AMS". I know that some RPO-Railway Post Office services also used HPO-Highway Post Office service lines. Maybe, the some holds true to Airmail service.
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Posted 01/27/2011   10:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the help about these air mail cancels. Actually, I think I just found an explanation for why the "RMS" cancel was applied to an Air Mail Field postmark, as explained in a Linn's Refresher Course article, quoted as follows:


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Although airmail field offices were not mobile post offices, from 1927 to 1953 many of them operated under the auspices of the Railway Mail Service.
In 1927, government operation of transcontinental airmail routes was discontinued and taken over by private contractors. At that time, the Air Mail Service ordered the closing of all airmail field offices.
To fill the gap, the Railway Mail Service set up a system of transfer offices at important airmail junctions and terminal points. As a result, many airmail field offices ordered discontinued by the Air Mail Service remained open, often without a break in operations. This explains why airmail field office cancellations often have "RMS" between the killer bars.


If you're interested in the entire article it is at this link:

http://www.linns.com/howto/refreshe...rcourse.aspx
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Posted 01/27/2011   10:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In response to being asked to post the entire cover involved in this question, here it is (front and back). As I said at the outset it was a typical FDC, but I never noticed the backstamp cancels until just recently.

Timing is everything, though. Note the FDC is postmarked Washington DC on 08/31/1934 at 8 PM; then to Cleveland Air Mail Field 09/01/1934 at 3 AM; then to Detriot Air Mail Field 09/01/1934 at 6 AM; and finally to the local post office at the addressee location in Greenville, Michigan on 09/01/1934 at 1 PM. I guess this proves the value of the 16 cents paid for the airmail/special delivery service in that day.


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Posted 01/27/2011   10:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That turned out to be a good unusual post.
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Posted 01/27/2011   10:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wt1, Nice cover. The backstamps really make it special. Real nice job of research on this one. Thanks
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Posted 01/27/2011   10:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice first day cover. I like them better when they are postally used. Reminds me of first flight covers. 16 cents in 1934 for a service that would cost you $18.30 today. Anyhoo, it looked like the cover took the train for the last leg of the trip hence the RMS duplex postmark.

Still one more question: Who's the cachet maker?
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Posted 01/28/2011   1:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
see, now I have to go look at my FDC's from this stamp.. :)
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Posted 01/28/2011   1:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Still one more question: Who's the cachet maker?


I did some research and looked this up (as I had no idea who the cachetmaker was either). An old newsletter from the AFDCS answered my question in an article about some common names used in addressed FDC's of that period ... sure enough, my cover has the "Fairway" watermark, and his name is the addressee, so it can most certainly be attributed to him. (Another website suggests this type of cachet is "thermographed":


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Elmer Nelson also operated in Washington DC where
he worked for the Internal Revenue Service and the Social
Security Administration. He is best known for his Fairway
cachets, so-named for the Fairway watermark found on the
envelope paper that he first used.


The "problem" with the internet, is you can easily get "information overload" as the history below about this cachetmaker reveals, which is probably more than you wanted to know :


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About Fairway Cachets (1923-1941) and Elmer Nelson Servicing Uncacheted FDCs (1926-1931) [Revised 1/22/11]

Elmer Nelson owned and operated the Fairway Cachet brand in Washington DC, from 1923 to 1940. Nelson's address in 1932 was 612 F St., N.W. Room 205, Wash DC according to a #724-18a stuffer I have seen, and in 1935 was 610 F. St. N.W., Washington D.C., according to a #771-12, 16c Farley Reprint Special Delivery which I have seen. I also have a #720b-4c Fairway Cachet on Air Mail Envelope addressed to Elmer Nelson at 312 N. Webster St, Greenville MI (perhaps a seasonal or temporary address he used for FDCs posted via Air Mail from Washington DC).

Fairway is best known for producing Cacheted FDCs for Commemorative issues. The First Fairway Cachet was #610-2, issued with a 9/1/23 Washington DC postmark for the Harding Memorial Commemorative. This was the same day George Linn issued his historic "First True FDC Cachet" for the same stamp, in Marion Ohio. Fairway's #610-2 consists of a brown printed reply envelope addressed to Walter I. Plant of Washington D.C., with a printed general purpose eagle icon that was probably added later. (Monty et al., First Cachets Revealed, 2006, p. 5; Mellone, Planty Vol. I, 1994, p. 2). According to Monty, the Last Fairway Cachet was Scott #902-16, 3c Thirteenth Amendment, 10/20/40 (Monty et al., First Cachets Revealed, 2006, p. 5; Mellone, FDCs of the 1940s, 2006, p. 33). I have seen a later Fairway Cachet, however, the 30c denomination from the #C25/C31 Air Transport Series, with a First Day of Sale on 9/26/41.

Less well known today is that Elmer Nelson simultaneously serviced Uncacheted FDCs for at least some issues of the Fourth Bureau Regular Postage Series of 1922-1935. These uncacheted Fourth Bureau FDCs were apparently not publicly associated with the Fairway brand of cacheted FDCs, but can be attributed implicitly to Nelson by (1) envelope size of 6"x3-1/2" (the slightly smaller size also used by Servicers Nickles and Philip H. Ward Jr., and by Cachetmaker Albert E. Gorham)' and by (2) a distinctive style of addressing by typewriter and addressograph. This Nelson style uses an addressograph plate prepared with pica typewriter font (with letters somewhat closer together than the pica font of Servicer H. F. Colman, who did not use addressograph) to make the name and address as concise as possible. Nelson or his typist often sparsely abbreviated the addressee's first and middle name with initials only, and tended to eliminate words like "St" and "Ave," or abbreviating Ave as merely "A".
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