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US 1982 State Birds & Flowers FDC Query

 
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Posted 01/28/2011   10:38 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add revenuecollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
[Adapted from a posting I made on another board, in hopes of reaching a wider audience here. If anyone has any insight into the comparative scarcity or value of Scott #1951-2001 versus #1953A-2001A, specifically as it relates to first day covers, I'd appreciate it!]


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In 1982, the USPS issued a set of 50 stamps, one for each state in the U.S., depicting the state bird and flower from that state.

The 2011 Scott Specialized lists the following on page 166:

#1953-2001 (perforated 10.5x11.25) at $0.55 mint and $0.30 used.

#1953A-2001A (perforated 11.25x11) at $0.65 mint and $0.30 used.

Not a big difference.

However, in the FDC listings on page 399, the FDCs for #1953-2001 are $1.25 each but the FDCs for #1953A-2001A are listed but not priced with a dash, which usually (but not always) indicates scarcity.

Are the latter on FDCs more scarce or is there simply not enough information for Scott to price them?



To which I received the following reply:


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I think they are very scarce on first day cover. The only cachetmaker that I know of who did them was House of Farnam. They were done on a set of 50 covers with each cover having both the regular and the variety stamp. One stamp is cancelled with the DC cancel and the other with the State cancel. I think there were only about 25 sets made although HF wanted to do more but was constrained due to economic problems.

The owner of the company at the time was John Halliday who was always interested in and willing to do these kind of things on first day cover.



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Well, I think I actually have an FDC set on the perf 11.25x11 versions.

I've spot-checked 6 out of the 50 and they all perf out. The cachet maker is Artmaster, one of the mass market FDC producers of that era (different from the one mentioned above).



The following are closeups showing the stamp and a perforation gauge. My apologies for the relative lack of contrast in the first image; this was difficult to capture.

Horizontal (11.25):




Vertical (11):

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Posted 01/28/2011   11:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperdude to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would think there would be a slight premium for the lesser known and scarce perforated stamps FDC's. I have always liked that set.
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I believe the dash "-" is shown when an item is known to exist and there is not enough price data for an item.
Are you looking at the Scott Specialized? Their data is not always complete, as you know.
Isn't there another catalog for covers specifically?
Also have you checked ebay for any past listings?
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Yes I'm using the Scott Specialized. I already checked ebay and didn't see any results for the A set or even individual covers. I should probably check BidStart though.

I called my local dealer, as he used to also keep a Brookman catalog around, but he sold it.
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Brookman... that's what I was thinking about.. The APS has one in their library, why don't you check it out.
Are you the same revenuecollector that is on VSC?
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Posted 01/28/2011   8:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think they were only Farnum...
I have a complete set, and I am pretty sure they are Art Craft.
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I've complete set of Art Craft.
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Just to make sure I'm not misunderstanding the last 2 replies, you're both referring specifically to the perf 11.25x11 versions, not just the State Birds & Flowers set in general, correct?
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