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GB Green One Shilling Cover And Postage Due

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Posted 01/28/2011   4:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jhlovell to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I think this is a GB Scott 28 with 5 cent postage due, but there are some other postmarks that tell the story of how it got from here to there. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. I am making a tight scan of the lower front to see if I can read the US postmark that is barely visible. Whatever help can be rendered would be appreciated. Thanks - Jeff



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Posted 01/28/2011   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A very tasty cover.

Perhaps Ron and Eunice will spot your post,
Eunice writes fabulous stories on mainly
pre stamp covers from the UK.

I'd like to know the pmk strike L FE12 over A

If there is a letter inside, you may be able to
link the author to the monogram on the cover.

You can see the link of correspondence
Rochdale was a major woolen centre UK, and Peacedale US .....

Peace Dale was founded around 1800 by South Kingstown industrialist Rowland Hazard, who named the village after his wife, Mary Peace.[2] Around 1804, Hazard reputedly pioneered the use of carding machines to process wool in Rhode Island. In 1814, Hazard was also one of the first American manufacturers to employ narrow-width power looms, and also was the first woolen manufacturer to combine all his manufacturing processes under one roof.
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Posted 01/28/2011   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm wondering if that stamp started its postal life on that envelope?

[edit: I guess 648 would match the Rochdale mark...]
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Edited by Cjd - 01/28/2011 5:41 pm
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Posted 01/28/2011   5:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could the word under the stamp be Frank / Franks / Franked / Franking ?
Similar to 'Place Postage Here' ?

Nice cover !
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Posted 01/28/2011   7:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The FE 12 must be the date as all the apparent dates are in that time frame. Rochdale Feb 11 Liverpool Feb 12, then the US postmark on the front I think is Feb 26 (timewise that would be about right). Could the 59 be a year?I'm not sure where you are looking puzzler, I don't see that word, and Cjd I have had the atamp for about 20 years, so that is the limit of genuineness that I can offer. I can't seem to get the CDS (that right Rod) on the front any clearer. Will keep trying. Thanks for the input so far everyone. As far as Peace Dale, it could certainly fall in my lap, I am only about 45 minutes away.
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Edited by jhlovell - 01/28/2011 7:22 pm
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Posted 01/28/2011   7:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK Puzzler took my magnifying glass to it and there is definitely something written underneath the text on the left goes under the stamp and there is a small line of script coming out the right side. Good eyes puzzler (may I borrow them)
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Posted 01/28/2011   7:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Right under the R OF Rhode Island it looks like PKT. Gonna go do the megascan getting angry.
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Posted 01/28/2011   8:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice cover, trying to read the receiving mark with no luck. The date appears to be FEB 26.
Edit: PKT could be for packet mail
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Edited by Russ - 01/28/2011 8:12 pm
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Posted 01/28/2011   8:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dont feel bad Russ, I have the envelope and I am having a cursed time trying to read it. There is quite a bit around the edge and I am really leaning toward PKT right by the R of Rhode Island but still struggling. Thanks for looking - Jeff
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Posted 01/28/2011   9:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
negative and sharpened

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Posted 01/28/2011   9:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bfranton to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Another shot with adobe. not so dramatic as the negative/positive. But I still cannot read the cancel. Can anyone ?

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Posted 01/28/2011   9:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have had this thing at resolution 4800 all night in a hundred variations of reverse, color contrast etc. The best I get is what I think is a PKT where I explained before and there is a you sitting right on top of the script R for Rhode Island. I can tell there is other lettering around the circle but ??? I will follow anyones suggestions with Photoshop, but I am out of ideas. I even was looking up names of packet ships in 1859 if that was actually a date on the backstamp, still no luck.
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Edited by jhlovell - 01/28/2011 9:32 pm
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Posted 01/28/2011   11:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Barb, I like your Adobe a lot better than my negative. More readable.
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Posted 01/29/2011   10:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can make this easier to try and decipher (other than asking the who wrote it to tell me) - Thanks Jeff
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Posted 01/29/2011   10:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
According to this web site
http://gbstamp.co.uk/article/index-...ons-143.html

the postmark '648' is from 648 = ROCHDALE (in Lancashire) in England which coinsides with the backstamp Rochdale

So that helps in establishing the stamp is most likely (or has a higher probability of being) placed on the cover at time of posting.
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Posted 01/29/2011   10:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Puzzler, what a website, tagged that one right up. Yeah on the genuineness, I have no reason to doubt its' reality, the writing under the stamp would be interesting to see though. Thanks again - Jeff
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Edited by jhlovell - 01/29/2011 12:53 pm
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