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GB Green One Shilling Cover And Postage Due

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Posted 01/29/2011   10:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is it possible to do a closer higher resolution scan of just the seal on the back center? The monogram or crest perhaps?? I am no expert, just interested, haven't seen too many seals before.

Would the L / FE 12 / A back stamp be in Liverpool (L) on the same day as the previous back stamp from Liverpool (FE 12), but being loaded onto a ship bound for America (A?) ? Or in a bin or consignment of mail due to be put on the next ship to America? Or just Bin 'A' due for the United States in the Rhode Island area?

Where would a ship unload it's mail when it arrived in America?

Why do the back stamps have dates when the Post Office stamping on the stamp just has a number? Are the back stamps more to do with commercial conveyance of the mails (and accounting practices) by ships and their agents than with the Postal Office's rules and regulations?
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Rest in Peace
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Posted 01/29/2011   10:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamp issued January 1856 according to my Stanley Gibbons concise 2005 catalogue so the 59 would match up to an 1859 usage, if, that is, they used dated hand stamps at that time. I am not knowledgeable about that. I would like to know though.
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Posted 01/29/2011   11:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the scan of that monogram/crest. Hope this helps Puzzler. And those are all good questions to be answered by someone smarter than me!

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Edited by jhlovell - 01/29/2011 11:44 am
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Posted 01/29/2011   2:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since this cover was dispatched from Liverpool I suspect that it arrived in New York. The red cancellation is a U.S. (probably New York) packet marking.


1853 New York packet


1868 New York packet


1852 New York American packet


1855 New York American packet


1853 New York British packet
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Posted 01/29/2011   2:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Russ - the last one has the PKT and the date in the correct orientation, also the Br and the PAID line up. I can see the 7. Trying to see New York. I think you may have hit it. With that picture, I will see if I can match up other letters. Thanks so much! Jeff
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Edited by jhlovell - 01/29/2011 2:25 pm
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Posted 01/29/2011   2:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Try this folks. I think Russ found it with his last scan. I can see the PKT the BR the 7 (looks like it might be a 4 but not on the letter), the date and the PAID. Still have trouble with N YORK, but this may be as good as it gets! Kudos to Russ.

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Edited by jhlovell - 01/29/2011 2:44 pm
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Posted 01/29/2011   2:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Packet markings are very collectable and really add to the value of your cover.
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