Why This Can Not Be 211B?

Hello,
this story was here probably many times :-D but why this one can not be 211b?


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It is soft porous paper, not?
thank you for ideas.

If the color of your stamp closely matches the scan then it is a 210 orange brown color. Scott describes the 211B as pale red brown which is misleading as the red tint is much deeper than one would expect from pale red brown. Both the 210 and the 211B were printed on the same soft porous paper.

People please how you do it, that you can recognize stamps by the color, to me it looks same

Left - Right: SC 210/My Stamp/Certifi. SC 211b

Does 211B exist in used condition? I've got a short article about expertizing these special printings from a year or so ago that I'll try to email to you, shareminator.

Matt

I share your sentiment, Shareminator. Being color blind, I can't help but wonder about how many rarities I have missed over the years or even have in my collection. *sigh*

Shareminator, the middle stamp in your picture between the two red brown stamps is more a pale yellow brown than a red brown. I have one that is similar and was wondering whether you have reached any conclusions as to what it is. It is not described in the catalog. Best regards.

P.S. The stamp does not match images for the orange brown variety for #210.

..if you stare into the stamp for a while, the stamp begins to stare back at you...)))
I see at least a few Scott 211b between the 210s that I have.
Any comments or suggestions? I will be very thankful.

All 210s, see this thread for more info
https://goscf.com/t/42412&SearchTerms=211b

Don

If the stamp is used you can take it off your list of 211B candidates. They were special printing paper trials in conjunction with the introduction of steam press printing. None were issued nor distributed to the public. What exists is archival material that managed to get into collectors hands later. No examples have ever been certified as used in period. The closest candidate is a pair bearing a handstamp of the 3rd Assistant PMG.

Which ones did you think are 211B, and why?

Thank you.
I was thinking about the one at the top, in the middle. It is not used.
And a few more...but they are used.

This is quite confusing. I have included a pic of two stamps, (overlayed in one photo for comparison purposes). The cross hatching are both quite different, the diagonal lines referred to travel different distances downward, and the colors shades are both quite different. The one on the left is unused.

I did read the discussion suggested by StudeBaker... very informative! Thank you.
So...
Copies from the discussion https://goscf.com/t/42412&whichpage...chTerms=211b

....211b on the LEFT,................. 210 on the RIGHT





I re-scanned a few stamps for second review...



..and only the one, which is canceled (sitting on the cover of 03.10.1887) is the closest to Scott 211b.
It's fantastic

Aurora, if you really think you have a winner here you should send it in for certification.

Peter

Peter...))) Nice to see you!

Actually, I just have a FUN.

I made a better scan.
First - it is a copy of the Scott 211B stamp (bought with Certificate) that RayMac showed in that discussion as an example:



... and here you can look at mine:





...and it is sitting on the cover sent from



unbelievable!

One more previously held discussion: https://goscf.com/t/36865&whichpage=1

I was afraid of asking what does the "Third Assistant PMG" cancelation mean... so, I found Essayk's old comment with an Example



Essayk:
"The mark it bears is a special cancellation used only by the Third Assistant PMG which was only placed on official documents of the Post Office Department. It was never used for outgoing mail or for the transportation of mail at all. It's appearance on this stamps is not an indication of usage. Rather it testifies that the stamps to which it is affixed are authorized examples/samples of the stamps being specified in the production contract signed and commencing May 23, 1885, the date on the stamps."