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Posted 03/21/2011   12:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jhlovell to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This stamp appears like the old Confeederate States forgeries. Poor quality and in addition I see no values attached. Any help here with authenticity or Scott number or finally retiring?

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Posted 03/21/2011   5:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting specimen !
Your stamp looks like a 1919,1924 or 1925 issue without the surcharge

Ahmed Mirza.

It would have been a 6 or 12 Chahis surcharge.

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Posted 03/22/2011   10:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Probably a printers proof.

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Posted 03/22/2011   11:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Oh! Is this for sale ?
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Posted 03/22/2011   11:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My Scott catalogue says re the 1919 issue "Counterfeits having double line over "POSTES" abound."
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Posted 03/22/2011   11:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Have to think about it.
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Posted 03/22/2011   2:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is definitely a forgery. Most of the time, you see the forgeries with the value overprints. But it is a definite forgery, nonetheless. As Jamesw noted, the double line is the distinguishing factor.

This stamp has a rather interesting history.

The original plates for this stamp were actually intended for printing bogus Persian stamps with a denomination of 3 chahi. They were not authorized by the government. The plates were discovered in Europe and confiscated before the bogus stamps printed. Later, the plates were turned over to Persia.

A few years later, due to dwindling stamp stockpiles because of WWI, the bogus plate was retrieved, the denomination/inscriptions removed, and used to print LEGITIMATE stamps for which the denomination/inscription were applied as an overprint.

Later on, a forgery was made of this stamp. In the forgery, there is a double line over POSTES. Of course, the overprint was also forged.

This is one of the few recorded cases for which a bogus plate was used to print real stamps, and then forged afterwards! Sort of a bogus/real/forged transition.

That's probably more than anybody wanted to know...
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