Victoria - Identify Postmarks - Help Please

I am very sorry but postmarks and the hunt of following the trail of the mail just fascinates me. Being able to tell where or when or why something was mailed renders the stamp just a little more significant. Does anyone have any help with identifying where or when these stamps may have performed their duty (other that the years of production). Any contribution would be gratefully accepted. Thanks - Jeff

RHS is a single hammer CDS
very common MELBOURNE station cancel,
with numbers 1 > to at least 24
as yours.

Standard format

"AM
1115
12 10 03"

1115am, 12th October 1903


the left hand one is curious

The middle Balf may have a catalogue of post office numbers.

244 would be Talbot, which fits the last two visible letters, but doesn't seem to fit the position in the ring?

(The "T" seems too close to the "A" in Victoria.)

This might be a little clearer

I think Talbot fits OK Cj.
You have a Vic postmark cat?

Ok so I think I understand what we have so far. The right hand side, easy enough, the middle we have agreed as Talbot, I guess and still wandering around the desert with the left hand side. Yes??

I wonder if the left-hand specimen has some sort of revenue cancel. It doesn't remind me of any postal cancellation I've seen. These stamps were, of course, available for both postage and revenue use.

I don't think so Tony,
it's nagging me, I'm sure I have seen something with "ACCO"
or similar, but the memory wires will just not connect,
It looks barred to me.


I've been through 500 in my database,
and the only divergent killers
are the barred "MC over numeral"

Jeff's could be one of these, mis struck and smudged?

Here's a reference for the difficult one

http://www.prestigephilately.com/ca...&sort_by=lot

There's some nice examples of some MCC's and MCCC's on the first page of lot 348, including MCCC/83, which this one may be

Well done Jubilee

I can't access that website, can someone explain-please?

How did I miss this thread?! Haha. Not enough time online.

It's been well answered. Talbot 244 is correct.

There were 2100 barred numerals issued. From 1000 to 1599 they used partial Roman numerals. The thousand and its hundred were in Roman numerals, but the last 2 digits were in normal numerals underneath (except the 1000's, the numeral was beside the M. Eg M67 is 1067.))

So MCCC over 83 is 1383, which was Albert Park.

In 1887 they decided to forget this idea and go with straight numerals again. If a PO had a Roman cancel and had a new one re-issued after 1887, the new one was in straight numerals, so you will still often see numbers between 1000 - 1599, these are just later versions.

The numbers 1000, 1100 etc did not have numerals underneath, and so appear as a straight line M, MC, MCC etc

Balf

thanks balf