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What Constitutes A 'Freak'?

 
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Posted 04/30/2011   06:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jamesw to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
It's funny, I think. I came back to stamp collecting about a year ago, after being away from it for about 30 years, and I've noticed something I think is weird.
I see, especially on ebay, a lot of what I used to see as just minor printing glitches being flagged as freaks or 'valuable mistakes'
Such things as minor registration problems or ink hickies (little spots created by dust on the plate) or even poor centering.
Is it my imagination? or is it that the market is trying to create rarities?
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Posted 04/30/2011   06:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sure there are ebay sellers (and others) who just want to make a buck and declare something a "freak" and put a high value on what is otherwise a very minor glitch that would ordinarily sell for no more than slightly above face value (if that). One example is what I recently posted about the new US Gregory Peck stamp ... a minor mis-registration of color that may be considered a "freak" by some, but "valuable" is an entirely different matter.

If you're interested in reading a book on US Errors, Freaks & Oddities, this is a good link (although a bit dated)...it also takes a minute or two to load, depending on your internet connection speed:

http://www.efocc.org/Resources/Segal/SegalBook.pdf

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Posted 04/30/2011   06:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the link wt1, I'll check it out. I have to admit it was your Peck thread that prompted the question, but it's something that has been bothering me for a while. I work in graphics, and these things are just annoyances, not ususally valuable.
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Posted 04/30/2011   08:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From the U.S. Stamp Society Glossary of Philatelic Terms:


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Errors, Freaks, and Oddities - a collective term for philatelic material that deviates in some manner from an intended norm. An error may be considered to have a greater deviation from the intended norm than a freak. Oddities encompass a wide range of unusual variations.

Error - a major and total production mistake, often defined as a mistake that can be identically repeated. Examples: Inverts (such as Scott C3a), imperforate stamps that were intended to be perforated, use of the wrong perforation gauge, and totally missing colors or tagging.

Freak - a mistake in production caused by an unusual circumstance not likely to be identically repeated, such as a color shift, perforation shift, inking irregularity or paper fold. A freak is a less severe and less valuable mistake than an error.

Oddity - a broad category of unusual variations. Examples: stamps used before their first day of issue, errors in postmarks, and semi-official separations such as the Kansas City roulettes.

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Posted 04/30/2011   11:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add skilo54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Where would a split overprint fit in? I would think using the definitions posted above that this would be a freak?



Thanks for your time,

Skilo54

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Posted 04/30/2011   11:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add skilo54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi again,

I may also suggest that in 30 years many specialists have had plenty of time to evaluate and record small varieties and realized that some are constant flaws, making them collectible and more valuable that a standard issue stamp. I know that even the 2010 SG Brit Comm. Catalogue is out of date when you consider all the additions to the 2011.

I know some sellers probably add the word "Rare" or "Valuable Mistakes" to increase the traffic to their listings, but as with anything ebay the buyer must be alert and know what they are bidding on based on current catalogue information. Just because someone says it is a "valuable mistake" doesn't make it one.

When I browse ebay I avoid Buzz words like " Rare, L@@K, Valuable, Grandma's, and Attic". I also avoid listings with grainy or fuzzy scans/photos or no image at all. If a seller is too lazy to show a proper image then count me out. I have heard of too many people burning themselves by buying a listing without seeing what they are actually buying? You can't argue with a proper scan.

I am glad you have picked up your collection again jamesw! Maybe try Delcampe for a few purchases? There certainly aren't as many creative marketers over there!

Have a good one,

Skilo54

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Posted 05/01/2011   06:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmmm, it's good to know that my Kansas City roulette is considered an oddity.
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Posted 05/01/2011   06:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add timbres667 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tomi
Thanks for the quote from the U.S. Stamp Society.
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Posted 05/01/2011   09:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
timbres667, you're welcome. Here is the link to the entire glossary:

http://glossary.usstamps.org/

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I also avoid listings with grainy or fuzzy scans/photos or no image at all. If a seller is too lazy to show a proper image then count me out.

Skilo54, I think you're being generous in categorizing those sellers as "lazy." I usually avoid their listings because I consider the inferior images they post as an intentional act to keep me from seeing the faults.
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Posted 05/01/2011   10:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the responses, and especially the link timbres. Very useful. I to have found on ebay that the buyer really needs to be cautious when looking at listings, especially in terms of description and shipping fees.
And I think you're right wt1 that sellers are trying to make a big deal out of minor printing flaws that a novice stamp collector might easily be suckered into believing is something really special. Caveat emptor as our Latin friends would say.
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Posted 05/02/2011   03:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Does any collector know if the USA stamp on right, with Red buttons instead of Black was common with this variation. Received letters from that period had the left stamp button and eye colours.

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