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Should Sales On SCF Be For Collectors Only?

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Pillar Of The Community
Canada
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Posted 06/03/2011   07:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add skilo54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good Luck with your sales over there Stampvirgin. The 17% of people who publicly agree with your position will be sad to see your sales leave SCF.

Bidstart? Never heard of it, can you make up your own rules over there?

Just wondering,

Skilo54

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Pillar Of The Community
Canada
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Posted 06/03/2011   07:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add timbres667 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think this re-selling topic can turn into a endless discussion and even a rough one. All this start when a member state in a auction that he wouldn't bid higher because he might not get a profit reselling. That's something he didn't have to write. I mean keep it for yourself if you think of reselling. You might hurt some members who has a different philosophy about auction on SCF.

Myself I wouldn't bother if someone want to sell a lot I auction but don't do it on SCF.Like Tony wrote someone may have to sell for quick cash that he need and in the process sell some lots he won on SCF.

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Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
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Posted 06/03/2011   08:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry Daniel, you are one of my best buddies,
but I shall have to disclose my contrary view.

I have changed my mind and position, I think Jubilee's case
is a compelling one, and seems to make complete sense.

I think he was justified and forthright in
advising his reason for withdrawing from the auction.
When we put something up for auction, we seek a best price,
meaning the market is open, what the purchaser then does
is his own concern, I think it's beneficial to have
had this discussion, it certainly has altered my perspective.
Cheers.
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Valued Member
Canada
338 Posts
Posted 06/03/2011   08:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lux1228 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My personal opinion, as stated in the original thread, would have to be that if you are willing to give up stamps whether it be for lack of personal interest, duplicates, etc. then it is up to the buyer to do whatever they wish with them. If we hold such sentiment and concern to the stamps, perhaps reconsider selling. We all have our own ways of collecting, and we are entitled to that...
I personally see no problem with the "Re-selling" if one is trying to make profit for more stamps,...or whatever reason! To each his own.
...and just out of curiosity, would it be the same contraversy if one were to buy certain stamps on SCF to complete a set and then sell the set on SCF?
I'll agree with Rod when he says this is a beneficial discussion. ~Ash
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Pillar Of The Community
United States
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Posted 06/03/2011   08:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
With Rod.

I also agree it is poor form to accept a give-away lot with the intention of resale. Those who give material away are trying to support the hobby in their own particular way.

Thanks.
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Posted 06/03/2011   08:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sigh ! When I sell on SCF its like trading with a friend..its 99 percent enjoyable..when I sell on ebay its like work..someone sends me an electronic payment and I mail the item to a stranger..communication from the buyer is slim or none !
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Posted 06/03/2011   08:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
phil..that is the way I feel
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Posted 06/03/2011   08:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bearwithfish to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Smauggie I would agree with the Giveaways and for your use and the intention is to help folks further there collections.. I my self have been the benefactor of a number of kindnesses here and would never consider the reselling of those...my opinion is this is a personal thing however and others may disagree on this point...

i must point out my agreement with the resale of items you purchased... as with any item on a market various buyers will buy to resell or buy to trade with others to obtain there desired items...how you invest your money should be dictated by your desires....
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Posted 06/03/2011   08:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add timbres667 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok then, I have to confess I once almost bought a lot with the intention to re-sell. And it was before the seller lower the price and finally sell it. So he would have made more that he finally did. The person I talk too at the stampclub never bought anything on the net and she's not the only one there. They want to touch the stamps and see for real.
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Canada
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Posted 06/03/2011   08:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lux1228 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'll agree with you Bear, I would never consider selling a giveaway I've accepted. Good point about the investing money issue, it really isn't anyones business but your own. I think we may have all become emotionally attached here, it shows :) ~Ash
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Posted 06/03/2011   09:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bearwithfish to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i am just glad we can have such an open conversation (about an apparently touchy subject) with intelligence and dignity... this is a great testament to the members here
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Oman
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Posted 06/03/2011   09:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add babateacher to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think that if something was a gift or freebie it shouldn't be resold. However, if someone buys something it's up to the buyer to do what they want with it. I've seen some of the things I've given people (stamps, militaria items) resold and it didn't make me feel good. I felt used. However, I love to help people out with holes in their collections.
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Posted 06/03/2011   10:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Yirmeyahu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is a great discussion, even if there are many points of view and passion about how to conduct oneself on this forum. I've only been a member of this forum for a short time, but am really pleased and impressed with the integrity of the people here.
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Posted 06/03/2011   11:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jubilee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'd like to thank everyone for their input and rational debate.

I do want to point out that I made no mention of either accepting freebies and selling them on SCF, or buying on SCF and selling the items on SCF, both of which I would also find objectionable.

The discussion is around buying here and selling elsewhere.

Clearly, my view is that once I own something, I can do with it as I please.

I'm staggered that 17% of the poll is in favour of SCF being a non-commercial site.

If the sales on SCF were for collectors only, I would buy almost nothing except cinderellas. One stamp lot I bought recently consisted of dozens of the same stamp, none of which are known for perf or watermark varieties. Why would I buy these if not to sell them, and why would the seller list them if not with the knowledge that they would be broken up and on-sold?

I buy and sell on a number of forums and auction sites. Frankly, I'm surprised, and somewhat dismayed, that the opportunity to buy and sell between members may be restricted due to some "club" mentality.

And, FWIW, the items I sell normally start at $1. Not exactly making a killing, am I?

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Norway
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Posted 06/03/2011   11:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add yobo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In my opinion, once you have sold something you loose the right to dictate what the buyer will do with the item. If somebody wants to re-sell something they bought here, fine by me.

However, giveaways should only be taken by someone who needs it for their collection, and not for re-sale.
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