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Posted 06/05/2011   12:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add bidetsith to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Australia stamps I need help with...general info/value again please! Thank you!




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Posted 06/05/2011   03:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The request for general info is confusing a bit.

What catalogue are you using, if any? Does it matter which catalogue numbers someone answers with? Which currency? I assume you wish US currency

Australia has their own specialized catalog, actually a few different ones. Then there are the Stanley Gibbons world and Scott world catalogues.

With older stamps such as these, if you are trying to determine value, it is sometimes (for some) to check the details of the stamp, the perfs, the errors in printing, re-entries, special cancels, etc etc.

A gheneral value will give you just that.

Example, the last stamp (#25) is from South Australia (obviously), a country of it's own before it joined together to make the Australia we know today, and had it's own stamps. Lots of older countries are like that.

I only have a general Stamps Of Australia by Rennicks catalogue to go by and it is a 2d Orange generally from 1868-1911 (in this general catalogue). No mention of special errors or anything here in this catalogue either. Worth used $5.00 and that is in Fine F condition. Yours is not in fine but in Good if that because of the design touching and entering the side perfs, the clipped corners upper right and lower left, the nice cancel (to me) saves it from being trash. Being an older stamp saves it also as its relative rarity would make it interesting to someones studying these, or the cancel. This is assuming that the back is not thinned or stamp has no hidden faults. Price now would be approximately $1.00 because of the damage, cancel saving it (perhaps). Some would not want it because of the damage.

On a modern stamp such damage would make it garbage to most except the real stamp lovers out there.

To continue on to the first pic, the King George Fifth or KGV side faces, 1913-36 years, there is a thread on Stamp Community (search) about just them and their possible variations and errors. Quite fascinating. Also, beyond even that thread, there are colour

variations that are worth more or less if you collect them.
1 - 1d green 2.00
2 - 1-1/2d red 3.00
3 - 1d green 2.00
4 - 1d red 3.00
and 2d red 4.00
5 -
6 - 5d brown 15.00
Proices given are for Fine Used. Your 5d is not fine, but good, to my eyes, but nice cancel, worthy.

These are one catalog's values. This doesn't mean that when you sell them you will get anywhere near that price. Depends on who you sell to, where and when and how you sell them.

Centering is important (most of yours are poorly centered). Light and readable round cancels are important. Type of cancel. Etc etc.

I like details (at times) and this series has enough details to last me years and years.

I do not mean to be super picky but am not sure what exactly you want to know. Are you just wishing to know general value for your own pleasure? Wjich stamp has the potential to be the lotto winner for you? Or just curiosity? Or are you selling perhaps?

If selling, the more you know, the more you research and find out, on ebay, through catalogues, through searching on Stamp Community and elsewhere, the better off you will be.

Example some make a study of the 2d red KGV stamps. Just that one stamp. Cancels, shades, errors, etc. Quite the hunt. If you can recognize and tell a sellable stamp from an ordinary nothng special about it stamp then you have one up on the other sellers and people will coe to you to buy.

If you are just selling lots of stamps in bunches then you are letting the nuyers determine the value and they will. Centering, colour, cancel, eye appeal.

Catalogue may say 2.00 but real life selling it sells for 50c or less. If damaged or not perfect or heavu cancel then good luck selling it except included in a group.

Gee I am seeming down today on stamps selling.sorry. This is just facts and real life. Cataloguies are there to give you a value of what a dealer would sell a stamp to you for if it was in really good condition and you were buying just that one stamp. Stamps regularly sell for much less than catalog and sometimes more if in superb condition or something special about it. That takes study to determine.

Not sure where you are in your knowledge of stamp values or sales or collecting.

Some of your stamps have the corners clipped or pulled off or missing. These are generally garbage now.


17 - 2d Orange is 5.00 with the round cancel but nope only probably 3.00 with the wavey lined cancel. Eye appeal. Oh, wait, the round cancel saves it but the centering is bad, really off to the side it is. Hmmm, loss in value again. 2.50 but an auction for the cancel, if rare enough, might sell for more. I like cancels but don't know the Aussie ones (yet). Research research. Look on ebay or Delcampe to see what the cancels sell for for a 2d Orange HGV.

I say 2d as that is how it is written . It is 2 pence or pennies. The D is an abbreviation or the Latin Denarius or penny.

18 - Western Australia swan, not sure, need better 600 dpi scan of just this stamp on a dark background please for others to help.

20 - minimal (catalog minimum 50c but cancel nice so could sell 1.00 for that alone.

23 - 3d Blue HGV 5.00 maybe, perfs on left not even, want to see the back (I always want to see the back)

24 - 2d Adelaide , minimal 50c, nice cancel, perfs short on top edge.

21 - clipped otherwise 2.00 nice cancel
22 - 1.00 but corner clipped
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Posted 06/06/2011   06:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Horamkhet to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi bidetsith
The best catalogue would be the Stanley gibbons Commonwealth Catalogue Australia
It lists all the states and all the other issues as well.
Regards,
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Posted 06/06/2011   06:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The bottom 1d green KGV is hard to see but it counts 16 perforations which makes it a perf 13.5. So it can only be small multiple watermark or CofA watermark. It looks to have a white spur pointing upwards on the left value tablet, bottom right which could make it a diell and would have to be small multiple watermark. But the spur looks a little to erect. It is hard to tell with your image.
Diell is more popular in the penny reds but the old plates were used to print the greens for a little while until the printing flaw was corrected.
Die11 is a constant printing flaw that goes up 2 columns of the stamp sheet. It is not a die but it has been miscalled for so long it will never be corrected.
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Posted 06/06/2011   09:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Perf14 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bidesith - very hard to tell much about your stamps, photos are really not good enough you need to post scans (on a black background, at least 300dpi) of each stamp. For each (almost) you need to provide watermark and perf data. Then some of the experts here can really help you.

In general, none of the stamps you have shown above are especially rare and catalogue values are ususally a fair bit higher than you would expect if you tried to sell them.

cheers

alex

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Posted 06/06/2011   5:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bidetsith to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all your help guys...Unfortunately my scanner isn't working right now. I am mainly just wanting to make sure I don't have that 'rare' gem, lol. These were all part of a shoebox I purchased at an auction for $5...I will be re-listing them all on Ebay(I just didn't want to add anything in the lot that may be worth more than average).
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Posted 06/06/2011   8:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi! bidetsith
I would still like to see an image of that bottom 1d green KGV.
A nice close up with your camera would be more than OK.

If it is a diell it is worth $40-$50
Small chance but worth a look, I am interested.

Always Happy Stamping! John
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Posted 06/06/2011   11:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bidetsith to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi John! I think this is the one you were referring to...



and I don't know if it will help you any, but I also took a picture of the back.....
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Posted 06/06/2011   11:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Alejandro Sanchez to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dear friend:

I think you must find some interesting items on ebay or delcampe.

Good Luck for find Australia stamps.

Regards.

Alejandro.
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Posted 06/07/2011   9:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks bidetsith.

I can see enough, to see it is not a diell.
It is always worth a look.
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