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Des Moines, IA Precancel Type?

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Posted 06/19/2011   10:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wt1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I assume this must be another L-Type precancel, as I can't locate it in the general listings. Anyone able to confirm the correct type?



If you need dimensions, consider the following:

Space between bars: 14 mm
Letter height (each line): 3 mm
Spacing between lines: 1.5 mm

Thanks.
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Posted 06/19/2011   11:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, wt1, Should be a L-4E.
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Posted 06/20/2011   12:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you. I have noted it accordingly.
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Posted 03/19/2012   8:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some additional help with a Des Moines precancel is needed. What precancel type is this?

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Posted 03/20/2012   12:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Oregonian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wt1 - I think your looking at PSS# 257 Cat. Val .15C
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Posted 03/20/2012   09:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I had doubted this to be a Type 257 as based upon this example as a guide, the typeface is wrong. Is there another option or can the precancel type still be a 257 but with the bolder typeface as shown in my scan?

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Posted 03/20/2012   11:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alanl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looking at the spacing of the letters...it might
be a 255. It sure is a sharp print....Alan.
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Posted 03/21/2012   12:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for responding, but a Type 255 is not known for Des Moines, Iowa. The reason I posted the initial scan is that I can't seem to match it up with known precancel types for Des Moines, Iowa and I only have this example on a 8c Prexie issue.
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Posted 03/21/2012   12:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alanl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well I`m not an expert but my PSS catalogue
...First Edition-Sept.73...shows it for
Des Moines. It seems to be the closest
match-up. Maybe the catalogue changed
later?
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Posted 03/21/2012   07:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting. I don't have a catalog, which is why I posted the question in the first place.

I was going by the PSS Album Pages for Des Moines, Iowa which suggests that the known PSS types are limited to 43, 61, 71, 81, 205, 257, 272, 804 and 882. The remainders would all be L-Types. That's not to say that one or the other of these references could be in error.
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Posted 03/21/2012   11:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alanl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This 7 cent Wilson seems to have the same cancel as yours.
Specifications for type 255 are:
Letters are 2.5mm high
Lines are spaced at 12.5mm
Town and state spacing is 1.6mm
These all match my stamp so I think it`s 255.



Some other Des Moines precancels I found in my Iowa envelope.

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Posted 03/22/2012   12:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for further updating me on this and sharing your scans.

As my example matches yours exactly, I guess it must be a Type 255. It's interesting that the PSS album pages for Des Moines, Iowa does not recognize Type 255 for that city (perhaps an error in their album pages). Nevertheless, it certainly answers the question and I have noted it in my collection of Des Moines precancels.

Thanks again.
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Posted 03/22/2012   12:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Oregonian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
After further review and after receiving Brunell's List of Precanceled stamps on CD, I now believe it is a L-11. I realise it is not listed in the PSS Catalog, but the PSS seems to have a number for this one. News to me too!
Des Moines, IA L-11.

Here are the issues this precancel are known to be on:
L-11 Electro .15
1938: ˝, ˝inv, 1˝, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 20, 22, 25.
1954: ˝, 1˝up, 1˝dn, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6dbl, 7, 9up,
9dn, 10up, 10dn, 20up, 25, 30, 40, 50.
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Posted 03/22/2012   01:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This was really a confusing one, wasn't it?

I have nothing to compare a Des Moines L-11 to, so I'll take your word for it, as you have the Brunell CD. It does make more sense that this is at least a known precancel type for Des Moines rather than an unknown type (as in the 255).

Too bad the stamp is not worth anything much in terms of value, but at least I've been able to ID it!

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Posted 03/22/2012   09:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are the 257 & L-11 cropped from my album page. The item under discussion is the L-11.....


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Posted 03/22/2012   2:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for sharing that album page. It's good to know that we've positively identified the stamp in question as a Type L-11.
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