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Soaking And Watermarks

 
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Posted 06/20/2011   4:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Chris_J to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I checked in the search function and couldnt find what I was looking for. My questions are:

Whats the best method to remove stamps from paper, warm water or the stamp lift that Amos sells?

Whats the best method for the self adhesive stamps? I know Scott alows them on paper, but the look a whole lot better in an album without it. Has anyone had any luck removing any of the modern US issues or am I better of just buying them already removed?

Whats the best thing for checking watermarks? I read that topic on the fluid and lighter fluid and was wondering if the lighter fluid left a smell or does it leave any long term damage to the stamps after using it? I've used a Morley-Bright Inst-a-tector, but I dont want to keep replacing the caches in it when they are wore out. Would one of those portable watermark detectors that Brooklyn Galleries sells be worth the investment? I have a load of South American and US I need to check out and was wondering what my best bet would be.
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Posted 06/20/2011   5:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add artlaunier to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Chris,

The best way is what works best for you. My best way is to use warm water, let them soak (usually takes 15 +/- min) then place them face down on a paper towel. When completely dry I stack each towel on top of each other and place a large book on top to press them down and leave overnight.

I use watermark fluid in a black watermark tray. Any black plate will do. You can reuse the fluid for years. The label is off the bottle so I can't tell you what brand I used.

I urge you to not use lighter fluid, toxic & flammable.
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Posted 06/20/2011   5:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add panda.bear to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Chris,

Special fluid isn't necessary to soak 99% of the stamps out there. I don't use it, and the only reason I can think to use it, would be if you're soaking self-adhesives (and you're averse to using lighter fluid), or if you like to soak off a very small number of stamps at a time and don't want to create a very big mess.

For checking watermarks lighter fluid has been the long standard in collecting. Today, people tend to avoid it because its proven to be carcinogenic if used in a small, unventilated space. However, I use it (safely) and can't find any reason not to. As for long term effects on stamp condition when using lighter fluid - I would say, the chances are that if you have an older stamp in your collection that's changed hands a few times, lighter fluid has been used on it at one time or another!

-PB

PS: Also you should be aware that checking watermarks doesn't always require the use of fluid. If hold up most watermarked stamps to a bright enough light source you should be able to see it from the gum side except in the case for a few. You may not have the confidence at first to be able to identify them this way, but neither did I. It look a few times for me, viewing the stamp in fluid so that I would know what to look for, and then viewing it on its own, to get the hang of it. But once you train your eye, I think you should do very well without having to resort to any kind of soaking.
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Edited by panda.bear - 06/20/2011 5:21 pm
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Posted 06/20/2011   5:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chris_J to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Art, thanks on that. I was doing the warm water method, but was wondering if that Stamp Lift was any better. Its just that I got a huge box (18x17x12) full of stamps to do. I think I'll just do the ones I need and sell off the rest later on.

panda, thanks for the heads up on the lighter fluid. I never knew it was used for that until I came here. You learn something new every day. I was just worried that after using it and placing the stamps in an album, it might effect it later on and ruin the stamps and/or the album.

I can do that, holding them up to a light, on some, but ones like Brazil, Mexico, etc. are a little bit more of a pain to figure out.
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Edited by Chris_J - 06/20/2011 5:24 pm
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