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Posted 07/17/2011   12:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Horamkhet to your friends list Get a Link to this Message


Hi to all

This one was in the "added bonus" from the envelope that I mentioned previously. Has any-one else seen this variety. It is a complete square and sticks out like a sore thumb. It is not listed in Gibbons

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Horamakhet
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Posted 07/17/2011   02:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Guesstimate,
EFO possibly a shard of waste adhered to printing block.
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Posted 07/20/2011   02:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Horamkhet to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Hi Rod222

I have posted this scan, it is too square to be a shard of waste?
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Horamakhet
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Posted 07/20/2011   02:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In my opinion it must be a shard,
it can be a design flaw, or a plate flaw
and in either case it is substantiated by having siblings.

Due to the lack of information, or news otherwise
then I use the corollory of it being a shard.

Give me the perf size, the paper, any wmk, the date of the stamp,
and I look it up in Pocock and give you
chapter and verse on the issue.


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Posted 07/20/2011   03:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Horamkhet, I did check used spares for signs of a 'Retouch', nothing in my few.
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Posted 07/20/2011   04:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Horamkhet to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rod222
Thanks for the info
The perf are about 14, the paper and watermark I can not tell as it still has old backing paper on it.
But other I have, have a crown sideways over an A, their paper is thick. The postmark on the this one has only the remains of a double circle, but the others have post dates of 1907-1911
Any information is always appreciated.
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Horamakhet
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Posted 07/20/2011   05:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I give up,
your perf would suggest a printing by DLR
but it looks like a Melbourne printing and
Victorians are not known for their workmanship.
They should have printed them in Perth.

The Melbourne printings from what I can see are a dog's breakfast
noted from what I believe to be a larger dot in the triangular
device under "ALI"
These were all perf 12 or near to it.

This is a very deep stamp issue and it would take weeks to study it
suffice to say the DLR comments in the WA study group book
says "De La Rue maintained a high standard and no varieties of a technical interest have been reported" the WcrownA 1d has a broken L in australia at position 2/1

Give me a decent scan of the whole stamp, and measure the
printed area of carmine (accurately) in mm


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Posted 07/20/2011   05:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
With typography, remember the raised print area
holds the ink, any jetsam flying around the print room
is going to remain on a sticky surface.
Agreed the shape is extraordinary, (it is common to see round
white dots from perforation waste)
but that's life, you have a square one :)
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Posted 07/20/2011   4:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Horamkhet to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rod222

Thanks for that

I will see if I can do a better scan on the weekend.
The envelope they were in had a pencil inscription, 1d red WA not checked.
It is amazing how varied stamps can be

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Horamakhet
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Posted 07/22/2011   10:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Horamkhet to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply





Hi Rod222

I have soaked the item of the paper.
It has a Crown and V sideways watermark, as as you assumed it makes it a Victorian printing.
The perfs are about 121/2mm.
I hope the two scans are helpful

From the outer edge to outer edge of carmine, it is 19mm, From the inner edge of octogon shape from the edge near the swans back the square of white is 3mm. From the inner edge facing the swans head the square of white is 10mm in.

I hope this is of help

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Horamakhet
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Posted 07/23/2011   08:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I wrote a long response,
I lost internet connection
and lost the lot,
I give up.

I'll post again when I am of better humour.
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Posted 07/23/2011   08:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add butterfly to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Would you say the soaking has improved the overall appearance, even though the dye ran a bit? The stamp looks fresher to me after the soak.
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Posted 07/23/2011   09:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Horamkhet to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Butterfly

I think so, even though unfortunately the dye ran a bit.
Horamakhet
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