Two Overprints On One Stamp

It appears that the top two stamps have two overprints or is this just one overprint that has two different colors of ink?

Those are 2 different overprints on the top Hungary stamps, SueStamps.

That brings me to wonder - what is the most ever on one stamp? I know I have seen three...

Wow, you have seen three overprints on one stamp! Lucky you! Do you have a photo of it? Thanks,
Sue

When I get home from work, I will try to dig it (or them) up.

Excuse me for being fussy, but they are not two overprints but are two 'surcharges'.

I know I used to do the same mistake when I was starting into collecting until I learned the difference between the two <G>

Chimo

Bujutsu

Hi Bujutsu!
I did not know it was called 'surcharges' and not overprints. I will look that up online and do some research. Thank you for the correction. I am so glad to see you here too! What a great forum / site!
Sue

Referring back to your previous post on the Albania wreath stamp. Just for clarity note that the wreath with A.Z. was an overprint. Then they later added the surcharge. Also, note that the surcharge is a lighter red than the overprint.

Bujutsu, A Surcharge is an overprint.
An overprint is applied to a stamp post production.
A surcharge is an overprint that is intended to charge the face value of the stamp up or down.

Here is an example of an overprint and a surcharge on the same stamp:



(Cochin SG O61)

The On C G S stands for 'On Cochin Government Service' and the surcharge is even helpfully described as a surcharge ...

Warrehouse

Thank you for your comments.

I remember some years ago for being chastised by a judge who stated I lost points when I refered to 'monetary' changes on stamps as 'overprints' instead of referring toit as a 'surcharge'. Those with wording only an no monetary changes are 'overprints'. His words anyway :(

In other words, he said to me, they are either 'surcharges' or they are 'overprints'. You be the judge <G>.

I have to admit, in a sense, these are all overprints but we are in a grey zone here??

Chimo

Bujutsu

Hi Bujutsu,
I am so curious about your judge and points. Was it some sort of stamp contest?
Take care,
SueStamps

I can't seem to find my stamp with 3 overprints / surcharges. Will keep looking...

I agree with Warrehouse. A surcharge is also an overprint, while an overprint is not necessarily a surcharge.

Bujutsu, There are many established professional collectors who make the same statement as that judge did to you. There are some whom say that a precancel is not an overprint but a precancel.
I guess I'm a realist & call a fish a fish when I see one!

Take Care!

Allow me to interfere in this interesting conversation, Bujutsu & warrehouse have clearly & correctly identified & defined the difference between "Surcharge" & "Overprint".

"Overprint" is an additional inscription or device printed on the face of a postage stamp. If it effects an alteration in the original face value of the postage stamp, it is generally defined as "Surcharge", even though there may also be a commemorative inscription in the overprinted matter.

For further info. please click below links:

1) Surcharge Definition (Dictionary)

2) Overprint Definition (Dictionary)

3) "Philatelic" Definition of Overprint and Surcharge


Cheers

Thanks James,

Surcharge per link above "A new value or denomination 'overprinted' on a postage or revenue stamp."

Philatelic per link above "Overprints have been used for many purposes, including 'surcharge', commemoration, and control marks."

There you go!

warrehouse said:






Just to clear it up, "Surcharge" basically/initially is an "Overprint", this is first.

Secondly, in RARE & special cases for some countries they consider "Surcharge" as an "Overprint" whether it was a new face value or any other inscription in some of their issues.

However, in MOST cases, when the 'Original' face value of a postage stamp is amended/altered by an overprinted 'New' face value, it's considered philatelically as a "Surcharge" (new charge has been implemented instead of the initial one)

Hope it's clear!


Cheers