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Washington Type 1A Or Type 5?

 
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Posted 08/04/2011   8:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Jcstamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Sorry had to repost thhis but to sum it up was wanted to ask about this schermack perforated 2 cent Washington. Looks like type 1a or type 5 but the line in left 2 not broken or short. I would appreciate any help.

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Posted 08/05/2011   03:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add razersedge to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not 100% sure because the scan quality is not good enough but it looks like a type VI from what I can see, but I'm only going on the toga and the 2's, I can't see the lip, hair or nose well enough to make a proper id
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Edited by razersedge - 08/05/2011 03:34 am
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Posted 08/05/2011   05:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jcstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your thoughts razer. I have included some new up close pics of scan. Maybe these will help.









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Posted 08/05/2011   05:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Type Ia and Type V or VI, are easily distinguished. Type Ia is intaglio printed while the other two are offset.
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Posted 08/05/2011   11:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add razersedge to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I need to check the book when I get home but its not a V or Va but it appears to have some extra dots and I need to check
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Posted 08/05/2011   1:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add razersedge to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a type VII extra row of dots on the lip and extra dots in the hair although very faint, nose dots complete and line in left 2 is heavy but not to heavy that's my opinion on it
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Posted 08/05/2011   3:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jcstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ya now that I was looking at http://www.1847usa.com/washfrank/2c...pesMain.htm, I have found thats it is probably a type 7 because of the dots on top of head and the 4 rows of 3 dots on upper lip. And have also found this picture at bottom of a certified 534b type 7 from PFC expertizing database. How do I tell the difference between intalgio and offset printing? Again, thanks for all the help.





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How do I tell the difference between intalgio and offset printing?


Jcstamp,

I asked that very question last October. The below explanation is taken from the 1847usa site.

Steve



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Distinguishing Offset Stamps

The key to separating offset from rotary and flat plate is to realize that the offset stamps were not engraved. This means that the ink lies flat on the paper of the offset stamp. If you hold the stamp at a very sharp angle to a light source, the color on the stamp will almost disappear. This is just the opposite for the engraved stamps. In fact, one way to tell if a U.S. stamp is genuine and not a reproduction, is to perform this test. All engraved U.S. stamps will clearly show raised ink when held at a sharp angle to light. The offset method of printing also resulted in some very poor quality stamps. In many cases a stamp can be identified as offset just by looking at it, the color and printing quality are that poor.

Sometimes visual inspection is not enough and another method of determination must be made. Since the offset method does not employ engraving, the stamp feels flat. Some collectors can feel the lack of engraving by merely running their fingers across the stamp. A semi-soft nib may be ran gently over the surface, particularly in the area of several parallel lines. This must be done very carefully in order to not scratch the ink from the stamps surface or damage the surface of the stamp in any way. Another favorite method is to use a piece of aluminum foil, or other thin foil, the thinner the better. Place the foil over the stamp in question and rub your finger very gently over the foil. The frame of the oval portrait and other details will show on the foil on flat plate and rotary stamps, but will not show on the offset stamps. Again, care must be taken not to damage the stamp by rubbing too hard. Gentle pressure should bring out the features on the engraved stamp. Practice these techniques on some of the more common varieties and you will soon be an expert at separating engraved and offset stamps.
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Posted 08/05/2011   4:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add razersedge to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It was the dots on the lip that made me wonder because they covered the lip and then you posted the higher res scan and it was easy to see but I couldn't see the extra dots on the head and I needed to see where they should be so I had to wait till I got home to see the book. But it's nice to see another one and know I was right
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Posted 08/05/2011   4:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add razersedge to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just been looking on bidstart for 534b wow the price surprised me, my Scott says that used it's worth 0.35, mh $25, mnh $35 think it might be time to consider getting a new one
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Posted 08/05/2011   4:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jcstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ya, I'm using a 1995 scott value catalouge but found this link for up-to-date pricing, and its little off of $0.35....lol. http://www.psestamp.com/prices/index.chtml
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