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Australia
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Posted 08/19/2011   9:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


I would have thought one illustrator designed all, not so.

Mr. Lou Nolan

3.4˘ School Bus, Transportation series (1985)
17˘ Dog Sled, Transportation series (1986)
5˘ Milk Wagon, Transportation series (1987)
16.7˘ Popcorn Wagon, Transportation series (1988)
5.3˘ Elevator 1900s, Transportation series (1988)

http://www.beyondtheperf.com/bios/s...ts/lou-nolan
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United States
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Posted 11/20/2012   05:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add clifhiker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
bumping this thread because I just spent a happy couple of hours sorting and arranging my coil collection ... here is a nice website (with lots of design and production information) that I used for reference: http://www.1847usa.com/1981identifier.htm

pictures to follow
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Edited by clifhiker - 11/20/2012 05:43 am
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Canada
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Posted 11/20/2012   07:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a coild roll of the 3c omnibus collecting dust on my desk . Was factory taped at end but my grandson yoyo'd the whole roll. Guessing plate number strips are possible from this I never considered.
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Posted 11/20/2012   09:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nitrolures, the 1 cent is interesting in that there were several printings and thus lots of varieties. Some of these varieties include obvious things like plate numbers etc, but some of them are much more hidden like tagging breaks etc. Clifhiker gives a great website for these coils, but the PNC3 website, http://www.pnc3.org has even more varieties listed. You might want to identify that roll of 1 centers; some tagging breaks for instance could be pretty rare!

Peter

Whoops! I did not notice the mistake in the thread od Nitrolures. There is no 3 cent Omnibus in the series. There is a 1 cent Omnibus
and a 3 cent Handcar. There is also a 3 cent Conastoga Wagon. Either of these have interesting varieties.
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Canada
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Posted 11/20/2012   1:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My mistake its 1c - I only have UV light for canadian tagging - is there any tricks to spot something like this without the short wave UV ? This roll of 500 is plate 3-4 if my eyes are right.
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Edited by nitrolures - 11/20/2012 2:46 pm
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Posted 11/20/2012   3:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cephus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For the longest time, I had this entire set except for 2130a and it just bugged me every time I saw that empty spot, but never so much that I tried very hard to find it. Once in a while, I'd half-heartedly look through some pages on Delcampe to see if someone had it and they never did. Eventually, I said the heck with it, went and found it and now I have a complete set, it's nice to see that page complete, but I don't know if I'll ever forget that one stamp that was missing for so long.
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Canada
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Posted 11/20/2012   3:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see plate number strips are generally 3-5 stamps- Since I only see a plate number every 24-25 stamps is 3-5 just so there is 1-2 stamps on either side ? I guess having 12 non plate NO's on either side really does no good for storage purposes.
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Posted 11/20/2012   8:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nitro, there is only one trick that I know of to spot tagging. And I do not know if it works on the Omnibus. Sometimes you can actually see the tagging on some stamps, but only if the stamp has block tagging.
Plate 3 & 4 of this stamp does not have tagging breaks.
However, two different plate cracks are known. Plate 3 is known with gripper cracks on position 2L ( second stamp to the left of the Cottrell line ) and on Plate 4 the Cottrell line itself is found with cracks on position 1L. Maybe you got lucky!
By the way, you mentioned Canadian tagging. Is that different from US tagging? I collect Switzerland used, and my UV lamp shows their tagging as well as the US tagging!

Peter
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Posted 11/21/2012   12:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add clifhiker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I collect singles, line pairs, and PNC strips of 5. I keep seeing PNC strips of 3 for sale ... must resist the urge ...

so far I haven't delved into the minor varieties, still trying to complete a set of majors. I'm sure I will eventually start with the tagged, imperfs, shiny vs. dull gum, etc; and from there it's a short step to PNC number madness ...
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Canada
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Posted 11/21/2012   1:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Apparently huge differences in US vs CAN tagging. The light I use for Canadaian is a basic black light I believe it is long wave and the US needs a short wave from what I've read here. I've never looked at US for tagging errors nor any other country for that matter.
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United States
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Posted 11/24/2012   02:05 am  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
About the 10.1c precancels, Wt1 wrote "Maybe a mistake by Scott? Maybe they didn't bother giving it a separate Scott number as it is technically only a precancel variety? Is it in line for a future Scott number correction? I have no idea."

It is intentional on the part of the Scott editors to not give the different precancels separate cataog numbers. That is because they don't give catalog numbers to precanels per se - the only reason you see cataog numbers for the precancels is because those stamps are untagged while the regular ones are tagged.
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Posted 11/27/2012   8:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add panda.bear to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I will echo everyone's praise for this issue. In my eyes, a real standout production for the USPS - a striking, unmistakable design with great variety amongst the issue.
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Guatemala
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Posted 11/27/2012   11:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add quigngt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I need to check my coils. I may be missing a few. I do however have 2 line pairs of the HCV #1903 non-precancel 9.3 cent Mail Wagon. One each plate #5 and #6. If I had known more about PNCs when I purchased these at the local philatelic window, I would have bought PNC5s. Oh well, live and learn.

jamesw, has Ram taken you up on the pile you have? If not, what would be interested in for trading?
Ram, if you did, can I contact in the near future for any stamps I may need?
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Posted 01/31/2013   10:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PaulC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dave, I was almost about where you are. And I was running out of things to do. Then I saw your post and thought I might go after the minor variations in this series as well. But then, how minor became the question. So I decided to leave the "gum" minors out and go after the size and tagging minors. Well this of course required a re-design of my Scott pages. I'm waiting on some more mounts. When I get it up and running I'll post some scans of my pages.
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