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Posted 08/16/2011   4:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Dave9911 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Finally

I think I have the entire transportation coils set in hand (well, 2262a is in the mail still). I always have liked this series. Some of them are remarkably similar, with just a gray vs black overprint, or a barely longer overprint. Two of them aren't noted in the Scott's 2007 Catalog (the 7.1C Zip+4 and 10.1 red overprint.

But, all in all, a very nice set at last.
And yes, the scan cut a few of them off at the right

The other thing the scan shows, is how bad vario pages are at collecting dust and cat hairs... Alberta is pretty dry and static is really bad at times.










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Posted 08/16/2011   4:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Coinsearcher83 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, nice set!

Thanks for showing them!
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Posted 08/16/2011   4:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Two of them aren't noted in the Scott's 2007 Catalog (the 7.1C Zip+4 and 10.1 red overprint


They are noted! The 7.1 cent (Zip+4) is Scott 2127b and the 10.1 cent (red overprint "Bulk Rate Carrier Route Sort") is 2130a.

A nice collection.
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Posted 08/16/2011   4:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I always liked these issues and really great seeing these someplace other than the scott catalog! Wonderful assemblage you have here! Congrats on all your hard work! ~Jay
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Posted 08/16/2011   5:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dave9911 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks wt1. I was unable to find numbers for those.

Happily, this forum is a wealth of knowledge like no other.

Next up, time to start producing album pages for my US collection. "This is going to take some time"...

Dave.

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Edited by Dave9911 - 08/16/2011 5:42 pm
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Posted 08/16/2011   5:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dave9911 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wt1? Question... what then is the 10.1 Oil car with just the black precancel lines and Black "Bulk Rate" through it? I had it figured that was 2130a.
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Edited by Dave9911 - 08/16/2011 5:51 pm
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Posted 08/16/2011   6:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dave9911:

You raise an interesting question about the varieties of the 10.1 cent Transportation Coil. According to my 2002 Scott Specialized Catalog, both the black and red overprint varieties are cataloged as 2130a. I even went to my 2011 Postal Service Guide to US Stamps (which follows the Scott Catalog numbering system) and the same catalog number applies to both varieties. For whatever it's worth, here's the 2002 Scott Specialized Catalog listing recording both varieties under 2130a:



Maybe a mistake by Scott? Maybe they didn't bother giving it a separate Scott number as it is technically only a precancel variety? Is it in line for a future Scott number correction? I have no idea.

Someone else may be able to chime in with an answer, though.
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Posted 08/16/2011   8:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dave9911 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Seems there is also a 2134b in that set... which is now inbound via the mail. And that should just about take care of that set.

Dave.
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Posted 08/16/2011   10:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 2134b is a Type II variety of the 14-cent Iceboat. Reference in the Scott Catalog denotes Type II as having a design that is 1/4mm narrower (17-1/4mm) than the original stamp (at 17-1/2mm) and has block tagging. No. 2134 has overall tagging.

Not to discourage you, but there are specialists that get into these series of stamps with even more detail. For example, take Scott No. 2257 (10-cent Canal Boat) which has varieties noted as 2257a (overall tagging, dull gum), another variety also defined as 2257a (with shiny gum); 2257b (prephosphored uncoated paper (mottled tagging) and shiny gum); 2257c (prephosphored coated paper (solid tagging), low gloss gum) ... and that's just the varieties of that one stamp!

You'd have to be a real specialist to get into those varieties, though, and personally I would be very content with just a specimen of each of the different designs and not bother with all of those minor varieties.
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Posted 08/16/2011   10:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dave9911 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm really happy with the visibly different variations in the set. Tagging and other combinations, I leave for my Canadian collection. I'm down to under 50 Canadian variations to track down at this point. Sadly, a dozen or so are way out of my budget unless I win a lotto or something.
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Posted 08/17/2011   12:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice Dave.

I liked these transportation coils when they were first issued and
bought some pairs.

My aim was to get the whole set with Plate Number strips of five but I
never got around to it.

Wish I had though.
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Posted 08/17/2011   11:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, this US set is a ripper,
I just would have liked to see them in the larger US
vertical oblong format, because the designs are so nice.
It's great to see them all together.
Do we know who the designer / illustrator is?

I was reading Australian stamp literature recently,
and was surprised to see an image in WW1 even the hospital beds
came with those huge spindley wagon wheels.
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Posted 08/17/2011   12:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ramanandn to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Impressive set Dave. You've inspired me to complete mine now just because they look so awesome together
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Posted 08/17/2011   12:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Got a pile of these looking for a home Ram, if you're interested. Could do some sort of trade. Drop me an email if you like.
James
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Posted 08/17/2011   1:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Do we know who the designer / illustrator is?


Rod for all that info and much more try the Plate Number Coil Collectors Club site. http://www.pnc3.us/pnc3.org/


In the menu on the left click on PNC Data, then List of PNC Data Pages and at the bottom are Transportation I to IV.

This is one of the best stamp info sites anywhere and even though I really
don't collect US I like checking in there frequently.
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Edited by lithograving - 08/17/2011 1:58 pm
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Posted 08/19/2011   9:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Philatelic Pfool to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Now Dave onto the used Plate Number Coils for the transportation series and beyond.

PP
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