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Modern US Plate Block Collecting?

 
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Posted 01/31/2013   11:28 am  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Nells250 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
When I started collecting stamps, I was all on my own. I had some books, and that was it.

Now that I have all the folks here on the forum, I can ask all sorts of questions. Here is one:

I have read many times here that some US collectors stopped collecting plate blocks once the USPS switched to stickers... I mean self adhesive stamps. What am I missing about the print process that ruined things for collectors? I mean, the plate numbers are still there on many sheets.

What caused this move away from plate block collecting?
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Posted 01/31/2013   1:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danstamps54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can't speak for anyone but myself but I quit actively collecting plate blocks long before the "sticker" era.
What discouraged me were the stamps printed with the Huck Press (?) circa. 1968 to 1976. Instead of a block of four, it was necessary to buy a strip of 10 or 20 stamps to get the complete number.
Aside from being taxing on my then meager stamp budget, they were cumbersome to handle and mount.
I switched to PNC's but backed off on that too when the collecting fad changed from strips of three to strips of five.
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Posted 01/31/2013   2:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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What caused the move away from plate block collecting?


The US Postal Service (in their greed) killed it! How? The collecting of plate blocks was very popular through the 1960s and 1970s, however, that was back in the day when virtually all stamps were issued in sheets of 50 or 100 stamps. It was too expensive for many collectors to buy and retain the whole sheet, so the plate block was considered the most desirable piece for a collection.

However, when new printing presses were used, a plate block often consisted of strips of 6, 8, 10 or even 20 stamps. This became unaffordable for many collectors (especially young people or those on limited incomes) and then you had the problem of storing those oddly shaped blocks that would not fit into a conventional album or stamp storage device.

Not only did plate block collecting dwindle at that point, but it was about the same time when stamp collecting values dropped considerably and collectors found themselves stuck with hundreds of plate blocks that had virtually little to no value, prompting many collectors to just use them as postage and abandon further collecting of them.

Then the USPS began contracting with outside firms to produce stamps and it was decided that, with few exceptions, only one plate number was needed with a "1" digit representing the different colors used on the stamp. In addition to the various printers, plate numbers then began appearing on coil stamps and even booklet panes, and the collecting discipline became too great and too expensive for many to continue to bother with given the number of stamps being issued today.

Furthermore, we have a great number of modern issues that have varied designs on each stamp in a pane, making it impossible to collect only a plate block representative of one example of each stamp, as oftentimes every stamp in the pane is different, making it necessary to collect the entire pane to get an example of each representative stamp.

One case in point is today's announcement of the "Just Move" stamp. Look at the scan below. A plate number is in each of the four corners, yet there are only 15 stamps to the pane and each stamp is of a different design. The USPS will demand that collectors only buy these in full panes of 15 (not singles or blocks) and if a plate block collector really wanted a block of 4 from all four positions, you'd have to purchase multiple panes of stamps to do it. Then, even with four plate blocks from each corner, you'd still be missing some representative stamps from that series. So plate block collecting in this case is virtually meaningless:



There is, however, a trend toward collecting plate number singles, which may be a modern day equivalent of identifying the various plates and numbering systems used for modern day stamps, but it has never risen to the popularity that plate block collecting once did.
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Posted 01/31/2013   2:21 pm  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Nells250 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting! I didn't realize that people started to shift away from plate blocks that early. I suppose it is easier to understand the issue if you were around in the plate block hayday.

Now how about the 1-10 cent sheets? I have noticed that those have been issued in multiple plate numbers. Are they the last of a dying breed?
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What is the deal with modern plate block numbers? I recently got my hands on quite a few older ones that have actual number sequences, but all the new stamps I find are nothing more than something like V11111, or S111111. It doesn't seem to mean much to me, I assume these either change letters, whatever they mean, or goes to S222222. I don't see much whimsy in those codes.
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Now how about the 1-10 cent sheets? I have noticed that those have been issued in multiple plate numbers. Are they the last of a dying breed?


Those stamps have been around for years and often get reprinted as the need for them becomes apparent, thus resulting in the different plate numbers.
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all the new stamps I find are nothing more than something like V11111, or S111111. It doesn't seem to mean much to me, I assume these either change letters, whatever they mean, or goes to S222222.


First of all, the letter prefix is identifying the printer:

V = Avery Dennison (AVR)
S = Sennett Security Products (SSP)
P = Ashton Potter (APU)

These are the primary ones in use today, although there are a few earlier ones are out there, too, which can be found in this listing:

http://www.apnss.org/PrivatePrefixes.htm

The number of "1"s typically found in a plate number following the prefix letter are representative of each of the different colors used in that stamp issue.

When the numbers change from a series of "1"s to "2"s that's usually indicative of a reprinting of the stamp with the higher number used to identify the later printing(s).
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Posted 02/01/2013   6:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike33 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
very interesting info - thanks for all that
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